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JimWantsAliens

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:49 pm


Why is Patricia Charbonneau uncredited in RoboCop 2?

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Have we ever found out why the actress Patricia Charbonneau is not credited for her role in RoboCop 2? The novelization gives her name as Linda Garcia. It's actually a pretty big role (compared to some other forgettable characters) and she's probably the most sympathetic character in the movie, defending Murphy more vocally than even Lewis or Reid at times.


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Sin_Valor

Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:54 pm



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Was she Cain's assistant...or one of the OCP scientists?


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JimWantsAliens

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:08 pm



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She's the lab technician who argues with the lawyer once Robo's been dismantled by Hob and co. There's a lot of characters in RoboCop 2 who never get referred to by their character name on-screen.

The female character in Cain's gang is Angie.


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JimWantsAliens

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:27 pm



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Incidentally, she also stars opposite Peter Weller as his love interest in the 1988 film Shakedown (which was re-titled Blue Jean Cop in the UK).


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Dedomenici

Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:50 pm



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I just watched the trailer and Weller uses the phrases 'best that money can buy' and 'you betcha' - I wonder if Miller paid homage to Shakedown (BJC) in the script for Robo 2??


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JimWantsAliens

Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:11 am



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Maybe! I had it recorded on VHS off of Sky Movies. Their trailer advertised it as starring Peter 'RoboCop' Weller. Great middle name!


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RoboWags

Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:32 am



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Ironically enough, she looks and talks very similar to Dr. Tyler in the 1987 Animated Series...even though she doesn't bare much similarity to Tyler in the first movie.


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WeKilledYou

Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:53 am



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She's pretty hot.

But anyways, I thought her role was pretty good and memorable even on such a smaller scale.


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vegasrobo

Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:15 pm



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So is this a thing?..I mean do we really care why she's uncredited?


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JimWantsAliens

Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:48 pm



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Yes I'm interested. So I asked.


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RoboBrand87

Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:03 pm



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Patricia has more lines than Robert DoQui in the movie. Don't know why she wasn't credited but I liked her all the same. She was quite sexy.


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AlexRobo

Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:35 pm



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I've seen her in an early episode of The Equalizer in which she played a damsel in distress saved by Robert McCall.  Seems like a fine actress.


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NukeLord

Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:06 pm



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Yes I'm interested. So I asked.

Actors/actresses are generally uncredited in films to avoid Screen Actors Guild minimum pay regulations or if they choose themselves to not be credited. Big stars who may want to do a director/writer/producer friend a favour by starring in their friend's movie, may choose to waiver their fees by not being credited.

In Patricia's case it's likely she had a bad experience working on the film (maybe she also wasn't a Kershner fan) or really didn't like how the film turned out - so decided to not be credited on the movie. She doesn't seem to be featuring in the upcoming RoboDoc documentary (despite nearly everyone else featuring) - so I'd say this is most probably the case.


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JimWantsAliens

Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:45 pm



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Yes I'm interested. So I asked.

Actors/actresses are generally uncredited in films to avoid Screen Actors Guild minimum pay regulations or if they choose themselves to not be credited. Big stars who may want to do a director/writer/producer friend a favour by starring in their friend's movie, may choose to waiver their fees by not being credited.

In Patricia's case it's likely she had a bad experience working on the film (maybe she also wasn't a Kershner fan) or really didn't like how the film turned out - so decided to not be credited on the movie. She doesn't seem to be featuring in the upcoming RoboDoc documentary (despite nearly everyone else featuring) - so I'd say this is most probably the case.

Thanks Nuke Lord.

Actually, I'm wondering if it might have been more as a favour to Peter rather than a falling out with Irvin.  Patricia and Peter starred together in Shakedown (aka Blue Jean Cop) in 1988, so maybe she came on board due to that. The mystery continues.


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RoboWags

Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:44 pm



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Her absence from RoboDoc is interesting to be sure. Maybe she declined as Weller did.

Update: I asked the producers via Facebook and they said they tracked down everyone so if she isn't in it then she most likely declined.


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Spectrum Scarlet

Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:54 pm



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Maybe Archive can do another "Fate of Catzo" piece on this. She's still active, having being interviewed last year for her part in a 1985 film. Her first new role in 10 years is also listed as 'announced'. Could happen, even if the "RoboDoc" guys didn't get her.

Another prominent actress in the franchise, who hasn't given a retrospective interview on her part before, is Yvette Nipar from "The Series". Although there was talk between them on Twitter about a possible interview for the doc, it doesn't seem as if it happened. She posted a photo of a Madigan figure sat on the fence - literally, and had she been filmed, I think they would've posted a frame from the footage.


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Archive

Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:12 pm



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I'll try to do some digging. :)

I talked to the Robodoc guys about Jill Hennessey and Yvette Nipar, but i don't have much of interest to report.

Jill was busy and couldn't commit and get the time (or she wasn't interested). Yvette really wanted to do it when first approached but unfortunately she also couldn't take the time for whatever reason. It's pretty vague.

Although both actresses would have been great additions to Robodoc, i understand that the team can't spend too much time trying to make schedules work. Most time and effort was done locating people from Robo1.


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Spectrum Scarlet

Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:12 pm



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Maybe you should try them, then. Do a "Women of RoboCop" series. Would be timely, given the current feeling in Hollywood.

Don't know what the doc guys got on Kershner from Nancy, but I often wondered what he did to her exactly to make her feel the way she does. There's a still of them and Weller in-between takes, during filming of the baby rescue scene. Laughs and smiles all round, with her in particular wholeheartedly.

There's also this. BTS B-Roll from '89. She's upbeat in interview, and not looking the victim of abuse when Kershner's giving her direction: https://youtu.be/QNAOpxm8CDE?t=54s

If you were to try for Jill and Yvette, I'd throw Andrea into the hat, as well. There's of course Patricia, and I'm sure there could be others. Maybe Leslie Hope and Maria Del Mar from "Prime Directives". We focus that much on the men from the franchise, that with the exception of Nancy, we don't shine a spotlight on the women. I'd certainly like to see one on them.

As for the doc crew focusing on the first film - a lot of it will be repetition, I think. There's been that many documentaries on the original. Featurettes, Q&A's. The more interesting stories lie in the subsequent productions. RoboCop Archive could be the one to explore those from the perspective of the actresses. Just those who the crew didn't meet. Wouldn't have to step on their toes.


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NukeLord

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:56 pm



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Maybe you should try them, then. Do a "Women of RoboCop" series. Would be timely, given the current feeling in Hollywood.

Don't know what the doc guys got on Kershner from Nancy, but I often wondered what he did to her exactly to make her feel the way she does. There's a still of them and Weller in-between takes, during filming of the baby rescue scene. Laughs and smiles all round, with her in particular wholeheartedly.

There's also this. BTS B-Roll from '89. She's upbeat in interview, and not looking the victim of abuse when Kershner's giving her direction: https://youtu.be/QNAOpxm8CDE?t=54s

If you were to try for Jill and Yvette, I'd throw Andrea into the hat, as well. There's of course Patricia, and I'm sure there could be others. Maybe Leslie Hope and Maria Del Mar from "Prime Directives". We focus that much on the men from the franchise, that with the exception of Nancy, we don't shine a spotlight on the women. I'd certainly like to see one on them.

As for the doc crew focusing on the first film - a lot of it will be repetition, I think. There's been that many documentaries on the original. Featurettes, Q&A's. The more interesting stories lie in the subsequent productions. RoboCop Archive could be the one to explore those from the perspective of the actresses. Just those who the crew didn't meet. Wouldn't have to step on their toes.

Just when you think you've seen all the behind the scenes featurettes from 1987 - 1993, up pops Spectrum Scarlet with another! :) I'd never seen this one before...so thank you for sharing. :)

While I love "2", I've often wished more of the "humanity" scenes were left in the film, that the Murphy's family sub-plot wasn't discarded near the beginning of the movie etc. It often fascinates me to see Kershner talk about the humanity of the character so much in featurettes when much of this narrative was stripped away in the film.

Anyhoo, don't want to go off-topic - so I'll leave it there. ;)


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ChAnOoD

Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:27 pm



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 If you were to try for Jill and Yvette, I'd throw Andrea into the hat, as well. There's of course Patricia, and I'm sure there could be others. Maybe Leslie Hope and Maria Del Mar from "Prime Directives". We focus that much on the men from the franchise, that with the exception of Nancy, we don't shine a spotlight on the women. I'd certainly like to see one on them.

I think the more friendly option was Maria del Mar. I almost interview her for the RoboCop special I did for my magazine, but sadly I had to cut her since there were too many people from PD in that part. I contacted Yvette and Andrea as well, but no answer in both cases. Wich is a shame; it´d be interesting to hear all those familiar faces giving their thoughts about their RoboCop experiences.


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Archive

Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:58 pm



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As always i like the idea of asking questions to cast and crew but my problem is coming up with good questions. With Catzo it was a mystery and something everyone (probably not) was interested in knowing. With Patricia it is the same. We can smell behind the scenes drama here that we want to know more about. It's potentially juicy stuff worth digging deeper into.

I just wouldn't know what to ask Yvette or Jill apart from the same old stuff like "how was it to work on the series/Robo3?" I want to come up with an actual intelligent and interesting question to ask them that they don't get with every movie they make.

PD as whole doesn't really interest me. With all the actors and actresses it feels like they just filmed whatever to get some quick cash. I don't think they are interested in talking about Robo at all. But i could be wrong.


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Stan The Man

Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:30 am



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While I love "2", I've often wished more of the "humanity" scenes were left in the film, that the Murphy's family sub-plot wasn't discarded near the beginning of the movie etc. It often fascinates me to see Kershner talk about the humanity of the character so much in featurettes when much of this narrative was stripped away in the film. 

Seconded all the way and without going off on a tangent myself I too give thanks to SS for the vid.. always good to see new BTS stuff for anything Robo, especially the sequels and such.

Anyway I remember hearing about how Jill and Yvette couldn't be available for the Doc, was a bit bummed about that - the latter especially as she seemed interested for a time. That said, grand idea about the idea of a companion piece for the ladies of Robo, would be cool. Though I'm afraid Archive said it though about it being difficult to approach any of 'em without anything particular or otherwise worthwhile to ask about.


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ChAnOoD

Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:11 pm



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There's also this. BTS B-Roll from '89. She's upbeat in interview, and not looking the victim of abuse when Kershner's giving her direction: https://youtu.be/QNAOpxm8CDE?t=54s

Well, she´s an actress. On every Hollywood´s "making of" featurette they always look happy, and usually praise the work. They have to promote the flick, after all. That´s why when they leak a problem on set (like Bale´s shouting in Terminator: Salvation) everyone is shocked  :b 

With all the actors and actresses it feels like they just filmed whatever to get some quick cash. I don't think they are interested in talking about Robo at all. But i could be wrong.

People like Ellen Dubin or Galyn Görg seem to have a soft spot for the character. Of course, not on an insane level as us, but that´s something. And I was surprised about how talkative Bruce Locke was. Lots of behind the scenes facts and he really liked fiming Robo3. He´s aware that film killed his career, but it was a fun, easy shooting for him.


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Archive

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:31 pm



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People like Ellen Dubin or Galyn Görg seem to have a soft spot for the character. 

With Ellen it's funny that she was shoehorned into Robo:PD. She was related or something with someone at the studio and they forced the writers/director to include her. She was not fun to work with apparently. 

Same with the triplets. They were also forced to include them. But I'm sure they were more enjoyable to work with.  :opps:


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ChAnOoD

Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:01 pm



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With Ellen it's funny that she was shoehorned into Robo:PD. She was related or something with someone at the studio and they forced the writers/director to include her. She was not fun to work with apparently. 

According to the scripts, her part was written for a guy, if I recall correctly.

Same with the triplets. They were also forced to include them. But I'm sure they were more enjoyable to work with.  :opps:

Yeah, I knew that. They´re fun to watch, but I assume the studio included them to generate some buzz among males. Can´t see another reason to include them.


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NukeLord

Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:57 pm



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My favourite and fondest memory of RoboCop: PD will always be Glenn Orr's review of this mini-series featured on this site. Comedy gold. :)


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Stan The Man

Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:00 am



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My favourite and fondest memory of RoboCop: PD will always be Glenn Orr's review of this mini-series featured on this site. Comedy gold. :)

I second that as well, sir.  :thumb1:  Well that, and Jose's flash vid.


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Spectrum Scarlet

Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:42 am



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My pleasure, gentlemen. When I stumbled across it, I was in awe myself of the unseen interviews and additional set footage. Just goes to show that the EPK Orion sent out to international networks to promote the movie was more than what U.S. entertainment news programmes aired at the time. This was either a Spanish or Mexican broadcast. 

The RoboDoc guys would do well trying to source the original camera tapes (before they were edited), if they haven't already. On that note, they mentioned a RoboBook is in the works as a companion piece to their two-part release. They gave an interview at a horror con where they revealed it.

As always i like the idea of asking questions to cast and crew but my problem is coming up with good questions. With Catzo it was a mystery and something everyone (probably not) was interested in knowing. With Patricia it is the same. We can smell behind the scenes drama here that we want to know more about. It's potentially juicy stuff worth digging deeper into.

I just wouldn't know what to ask Yvette or Jill apart from the same old stuff like "how was it to work on the series/Robo3?" I want to come up with an actual intelligent and interesting question to ask them that they don't get with every movie they make. 

Maybe not Jill then, but there's nothing wrong asking the same old stuff. If anything, they'll be flattered someone's taking an interest in their past work. Yvette and Andrea were part of a global, iconic franchise, playing their characters longer than the movie casts. They should be made to feel proud of the show, given it was done with the best intentions and highest production values at the time.

It's without a doubt one of the most polished, cinematic productions 90's television had. Was simply the no-violence mandate which pulled them down; often fought rebelliously against by the exec. producer and team. They should've been on CBS or NBC. Not syndication.

I could come up with some very interesting questions for them and Jill. Concerning their characters and what could've happened (for the former two) in a 2nd Season. The show should've ran for at least 2 years. 3 at the most.


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RoboPimp

Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:55 pm



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do we really care why she's uncredited?

Yes.


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ChAnOoD

Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:57 pm



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The RoboDoc guys would do well trying to source the original camera tapes (before they were edited), if they haven't already. On that note, they mentioned a RoboBook is in the works as a companion piece to their two-part release. They gave an interview at a horror con where they revealed it.

Really? That´d make two recent UK robobooks. That´s cute.


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HOB888

Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:49 pm



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The RoboDoc guys would do well trying to source the original camera tapes (before they were edited), if they haven't already. On that note, they mentioned a RoboBook is in the works as a companion piece to their two-part release. They gave an interview at a horror con where they revealed it.

Really? That´d make two recent UK robobooks. That´s cute.

For sure.Good new.


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NukeLord

Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:43 pm



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The RoboDoc guys would do well trying to source the original camera tapes (before they were edited), if they haven't already. On that note, they mentioned a RoboBook is in the works as a companion piece to their two-part release. They gave an interview at a horror con where they revealed it.

Really? That´d make two recent UK robobooks. That´s cute.

For sure.Good new.

Nice work on your site man...I enjoyed reading through it all. Really bugs me why so many excellent scenes were cut from the movie.


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HOB888

Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:17 pm



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Thanks mate.

I can't wait to get more infos from Robodoc.


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RoboWags

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:09 pm



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Thanks mate.

I can't wait to get more infos from Robodoc.
I did too. Great work! Some of those scenes would have been great in R2.


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Archive

Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:49 pm



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To resurrect an old topic, this quote comes from Paul M. Sammon.

"Patricia is not credited in the film.
All i can say is that it was a personal decision. Perhaps involving a relationship. 
But she herself wanted to not be credited in this film. I think she does a great job."

Doesn't clear up the why, but at least we know that it was what she herself wanted.


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Rick

Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:14 pm



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Was Patricia supposed to return for RoboCop 3 in the role that eventually became Dr. Marie Lazarus (played by Jill Hennessy)?


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RoboWags

Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:31 am



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Was Patricia supposed to return for RoboCop 3 in the role that eventually became Dr. Marie Lazarus (played by Jill Hennessy)?
I wondered this myself


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BIONICS BOB

Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:09 am



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Great topic, I've always wondered who she was


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RoboLewis

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:17 pm



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I was looking at some R2 trivia and it said her character was originally a man. Patricia was born in Valley Stream, NY—She’s a Long Island girl like me!

