My impressions after watching Robocop 3

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I watched R3 for the first time in cinema, I had the chance to watch the original in vhs then R2 in a cinema
when I was ten.Back in the day I hated it because I didn't get why it was so familly friendly, I didn't know the whole
story behind it.I was just a 13 yo kid.

Several years later I purchased the trilogy dvd box and rewatched it and there are small bits that I like , throughout the movie.
The commercials, the media breaks, the rehabs, the suicide joke, or when Fleck says he's not gonna die like
a show off and kill himself with dignity with his gun , it was cool to see Bixby again of course, I also liked the car chase.
It was also cool to see Johnson or Reed again or ED 209.Lot of details.

I'd say due to its tone ,it's not as good as the first two movies, but if you're a sucker for the Robocop universe
it's always good to see more of it.
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I watched R3 for the first time in cinema, I had the chance to watch the original in vhs then R2 in a cinema
when I was ten.Back in the day I hated it because I didn't get why it was so familly friendly, I didn't know the whole
story behind it.I was just a 13 yo kid.

Several years later I purchased the trilogy dvd box and rewatched it and there are small bits that I like , throughout the movie.
The commercials, the media breaks, the rehabs, the suicide joke, or when Fleck says he's not gonna die like
a show off and kill himself with dignity with his gun , it was cool to see Bixby again of course, I also liked the car chase.
It was also cool to see Johnson or Reed again or ED 209.Lot of details.

I'd say due to its tone ,it's not as good as the first two movies, but if you're a sucker for the Robocop universe
it's always good to see more of it.
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I watched R3 for the first time in cinema, I had the chance to watch the original in vhs then R2 in a cinema
when I was ten.Back in the day I hated it because I didn't get why it was so familly friendly, I didn't know the whole
story behind it.I was just a 13 yo kid.

Several years later I purchased the trilogy dvd box and rewatched it and there are small bits that I like , throughout the movie.
The commercials, the media breaks, the rehabs, the suicide joke, or when Fleck says he's not gonna die like
a show off and kill himself with dignity with his gun , it was cool to see Bixby again of course, I also liked the car chase.
It was also cool to see Johnson or Reed again or ED 209.Lot of details.

I'd say due to its tone ,it's not as good as the first two movies, but if you're a sucker for the Robocop universe
it's always good to see more of it.
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I'm a lifetime Robo fan - starting out with the first movie when I was only 4 (my older brother is 7 years my senior so I got to watch a lot of that kind of stuff at an early age). I am a fan of the '88 animated series, the comics, the toys, and the live-action series. That being said, I give R3 a 7/10. Even after growing up, I see much good in R3 (as I previously stated above). Being a kid at the time, I got the toys and comics associated with Robo 3 and I'm sure that plays a factor in me liking it as much as I do. The flight pack and gunarm added more play ability to the figures. Beyond that, while I do agree with Stan that it is very much a movie with RoboCop in it as apposed to a RoboCop movie, the same argument could be made about RoboCop 2 (if you think about it, the movie was centered more on OCP's dealing with Detroit and Faxx trying to create a superior RoboCop then on RoboCop himself - even Cain's story was more prominent then Robo's dealings with his wife). This is the way sequels are, though. We already got Murphy's story in the first movie. There was some continuation of his struggle with his humanity in the second one, but it was pale in comparison to the first and was not the center piece on the story in RoboCop 2. In fact, his humanity struggle was dropped altogether after his encounter with Ellen in the second act and was not brought up again for the rest of the movie.

I have to give Dekker credit for trying to correct the distance Kershner put between the first and second movie. The second was made to be more of a super hero movie than an action movie with the blue suit, new heroic score, etc. Dekker brought back the elements (even though they might be minor ones) that made the first recognizable like the silver suit, Poledouris' score, ED-209, Delta City, etc. He gets a lot of crap about Robo 3 but I commend him for bringing the franchise back to where it belongs. It was the studio's choice to rate the movie PG-13 so I don't hold him accountable for that.

For reference, here's how I rate the entire franchise:

RoboCop - 10/10
RoboCop 2 - 9/10
RoboCop 3 - 7/10
RoboCop (Animated) - 6/10
RoboCop: Alpha Commando - 0/10
RoboCop: The Series - 6/10
RoboCop: The Prime Directives - 2/10
RoboCop (Reboot) - 4/10
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I'm a lifetime Robo fan - starting out with the first movie when I was only 4 (my older brother is 7 years my senior so I got to watch a lot of that kind of stuff at an early age). I am a fan of the '88 animated series, the comics, the toys, and the live-action series. That being said, I give R3 a 7/10. Even after growing up, I see much good in R3 (as I previously stated above). Being a kid at the time, I got the toys and comics associated with Robo 3 and I'm sure that plays a factor in me liking it as much as I do. The flight pack and gunarm added more play ability to the figures. Beyond that, while I do agree with Stan that it is very much a movie with RoboCop in it as apposed to a RoboCop movie, the same argument could be made about RoboCop 2 (if you think about it, the movie was centered more on OCP's dealing with Detroit and Faxx trying to create a superior RoboCop then on RoboCop himself - even Cain's story was more prominent then Robo's dealings with his wife). This is the way sequels are, though. We already got Murphy's story in the first movie. There was some continuation of his struggle with his humanity in the second one, but it was pale in comparison to the first and was not the center piece on the story in RoboCop 2. In fact, his humanity struggle was dropped altogether after his encounter with Ellen in the second act and was not brought up again for the rest of the movie.

I have to give Dekker credit for trying to correct the distance Kershner put between the first and second movie. The second was made to be more of a super hero movie than an action movie with the blue suit, new heroic score, etc. Dekker brought back the elements (even though they might be minor ones) that made the first recognizable like the silver suit, Poledouris' score, ED-209, Delta City, etc. He gets a lot of crap about Robo 3 but I commend him for bringing the franchise back to where it belongs. It was the studio's choice to rate the movie PG-13 so I don't hold him accountable for that.

For reference, here's how I rate the entire franchise:

RoboCop - 10/10
RoboCop 2 - 9/10
RoboCop 3 - 7/10
RoboCop (Animated) - 6/10
RoboCop: Alpha Commando - 0/10
RoboCop: The Series - 6/10
RoboCop: The Prime Directives - 2/10
RoboCop (Reboot) - 4/10
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I'm a lifetime Robo fan - starting out with the first movie when I was only 4 (my older brother is 7 years my senior so I got to watch a lot of that kind of stuff at an early age). I am a fan of the '88 animated series, the comics, the toys, and the live-action series. That being said, I give R3 a 7/10. Even after growing up, I see much good in R3 (as I previously stated above). Being a kid at the time, I got the toys and comics associated with Robo 3 and I'm sure that plays a factor in me liking it as much as I do. The flight pack and gunarm added more play ability to the figures. Beyond that, while I do agree with Stan that it is very much a movie with RoboCop in it as apposed to a RoboCop movie, the same argument could be made about RoboCop 2 (if you think about it, the movie was centered more on OCP's dealing with Detroit and Faxx trying to create a superior RoboCop then on RoboCop himself - even Cain's story was more prominent then Robo's dealings with his wife). This is the way sequels are, though. We already got Murphy's story in the first movie. There was some continuation of his struggle with his humanity in the second one, but it was pale in comparison to the first and was not the center piece on the story in RoboCop 2. In fact, his humanity struggle was dropped altogether after his encounter with Ellen in the second act and was not brought up again for the rest of the movie.

I have to give Dekker credit for trying to correct the distance Kershner put between the first and second movie. The second was made to be more of a super hero movie than an action movie with the blue suit, new heroic score, etc. Dekker brought back the elements (even though they might be minor ones) that made the first recognizable like the silver suit, Poledouris' score, ED-209, Delta City, etc. He gets a lot of crap about Robo 3 but I commend him for bringing the franchise back to where it belongs. It was the studio's choice to rate the movie PG-13 so I don't hold him accountable for that.

For reference, here's how I rate the entire franchise:

RoboCop - 10/10
RoboCop 2 - 9/10
RoboCop 3 - 7/10
RoboCop (Animated) - 6/10
RoboCop: Alpha Commando - 0/10
RoboCop: The Series - 6/10
RoboCop: The Prime Directives - 2/10
RoboCop (Reboot) - 4/10
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I'm a lifetime Robo fan - starting out with the first movie when I was only 4 (my older brother is 7 years my senior so I got to watch a lot of that kind of stuff at an early age). I am a fan of the '88 animated series, the comics, the toys, and the live-action series. That being said, I give R3 a 7/10. Even after growing up, I see much good in R3 (as I previously stated above). Being a kid at the time, I got the toys and comics associated with Robo 3 and I'm sure that plays a factor in me liking it as much as I do. The flight pack and gunarm added more play ability to the figures. Beyond that, while I do agree with Stan that it is very much a movie with RoboCop in it as apposed to a RoboCop movie, the same argument could be made about RoboCop 2 (if you think about it, the movie was centered more on OCP's dealing with Detroit and Faxx trying to create a superior RoboCop then on RoboCop himself - even Cain's story was more prominent then Robo's dealings with his wife). This is the way sequels are, though. We already got Murphy's story in the first movie. There was some continuation of his struggle with his humanity in the second one, but it was pale in comparison to the first and was not the center piece on the story in RoboCop 2. In fact, his humanity struggle was dropped altogether after his encounter with Ellen in the second act and was not brought up again for the rest of the movie.

I have to give Dekker credit for trying to correct the distance Kershner put between the first and second movie. The second was made to be more of a super hero movie than an action movie with the blue suit, new heroic score, etc. Dekker brought back the elements (even though they might be minor ones) that made the first recognizable like the silver suit, Poledouris' score, ED-209, Delta City, etc. He gets a lot of crap about Robo 3 but I commend him for bringing the franchise back to where it belongs. It was the studio's choice to rate the movie PG-13 so I don't hold him accountable for that.

For reference, here's how I rate the entire franchise:

RoboCop - 10/10
RoboCop 2 - 9/10
RoboCop 3 - 7/10
RoboCop (Animated) - 6/10
RoboCop: Alpha Commando - 0/10
RoboCop: The Series - 6/10
RoboCop: The Prime Directives - 2/10
RoboCop (Reboot) - 4/10
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I think there was a topic before where we did rankings.. not sure. But since we're doing it now -

RoboCop - 10/10 (Perfect score for a perfect film)
RoboCop 2 - 8/10 (Probably as low as I'll go there)
RoboCop 3 - 6.5/10 (Probably as high as I'll go there )
RoboCop: The Series - 7/10 (Overall yes I would give it an edge over R3)
RoboCop: Prime Directives - 1.5/10 (I want to give it a 0 but spots of Dark Justice and me wanting to be nice save it a bit :roll:)
RoboCop 2014 - 5.5/10 (Pretty much where its settled)

Haven't seen Alpha Commando, and what I remember of the animated cartoon ain't much and ain't all that good (I'd probably call midrange on it at this point). In the event we'll just skip those for me.

I mostly agree with HOB and Edd's bottom line remarks for R3 - It's good light Robo fix with some other nice aspects but not too much more than that. At least to me. The mucking with the tone and atmosphere is really what makes it lack in regards to its source - R2 retained much more of that which is mostly why I consider it a "RoboCop film" as opposed to R3. But R3 has its good spots, that I have learned to grant it over the years. But it's not quite enough. Bah.
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I think there was a topic before where we did rankings.. not sure. But since we're doing it now -

RoboCop - 10/10 (Perfect score for a perfect film)
RoboCop 2 - 8/10 (Probably as low as I'll go there)
RoboCop 3 - 6.5/10 (Probably as high as I'll go there )
RoboCop: The Series - 7/10 (Overall yes I would give it an edge over R3)
RoboCop: Prime Directives - 1.5/10 (I want to give it a 0 but spots of Dark Justice and me wanting to be nice save it a bit :roll:)
RoboCop 2014 - 5.5/10 (Pretty much where its settled)

Haven't seen Alpha Commando, and what I remember of the animated cartoon ain't much and ain't all that good (I'd probably call midrange on it at this point). In the event we'll just skip those for me.

I mostly agree with HOB and Edd's bottom line remarks for R3 - It's good light Robo fix with some other nice aspects but not too much more than that. At least to me. The mucking with the tone and atmosphere is really what makes it lack in regards to its source - R2 retained much more of that which is mostly why I consider it a "RoboCop film" as opposed to R3. But R3 has its good spots, that I have learned to grant it over the years. But it's not quite enough. Bah.
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I think there was a topic before where we did rankings.. not sure. But since we're doing it now -

RoboCop - 10/10 (Perfect score for a perfect film)
RoboCop 2 - 8/10 (Probably as low as I'll go there)
RoboCop 3 - 6.5/10 (Probably as high as I'll go there )
RoboCop: The Series - 7/10 (Overall yes I would give it an edge over R3)
RoboCop: Prime Directives - 1.5/10 (I want to give it a 0 but spots of Dark Justice and me wanting to be nice save it a bit :roll:)
RoboCop 2014 - 5.5/10 (Pretty much where its settled)

Haven't seen Alpha Commando, and what I remember of the animated cartoon ain't much and ain't all that good (I'd probably call midrange on it at this point). In the event we'll just skip those for me.

I mostly agree with HOB and Edd's bottom line remarks for R3 - It's good light Robo fix with some other nice aspects but not too much more than that. At least to me. The mucking with the tone and atmosphere is really what makes it lack in regards to its source - R2 retained much more of that which is mostly why I consider it a "RoboCop film" as opposed to R3. But R3 has its good spots, that I have learned to grant it over the years. But it's not quite enough. Bah.
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I think there was a topic before where we did rankings.. not sure. But since we're doing it now -

RoboCop - 10/10 (Perfect score for a perfect film)
RoboCop 2 - 8/10 (Probably as low as I'll go there)
RoboCop 3 - 6.5/10 (Probably as high as I'll go there )
RoboCop: The Series - 7/10 (Overall yes I would give it an edge over R3)
RoboCop: Prime Directives - 1.5/10 (I want to give it a 0 but spots of Dark Justice and me wanting to be nice save it a bit :roll:)
RoboCop 2014 - 5.5/10 (Pretty much where its settled)

Haven't seen Alpha Commando, and what I remember of the animated cartoon ain't much and ain't all that good (I'd probably call midrange on it at this point). In the event we'll just skip those for me.

I mostly agree with HOB and Edd's bottom line remarks for R3 - It's good light Robo fix with some other nice aspects but not too much more than that. At least to me. The mucking with the tone and atmosphere is really what makes it lack in regards to its source - R2 retained much more of that which is mostly why I consider it a "RoboCop film" as opposed to R3. But R3 has its good spots, that I have learned to grant it over the years. But it's not quite enough. Bah.
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Well, like I said in another thread recently, R3, for what it was, still had some grim feel to it.

It has a lot of bleak imagery. Lost homes, separation from parents, dead parents, dying friends (bertha)

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Well, like I said in another thread recently, R3, for what it was, still had some grim feel to it.

It has a lot of bleak imagery. Lost homes, separation from parents, dead parents, dying friends (bertha)

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Well, like I said in another thread recently, R3, for what it was, still had some grim feel to it.

It has a lot of bleak imagery. Lost homes, separation from parents, dead parents, dying friends (bertha)

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Well, like I said in another thread recently, R3, for what it was, still had some grim feel to it.

It has a lot of bleak imagery. Lost homes, separation from parents, dead parents, dying friends (bertha)

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[ChAnOoD]

Funny thing, I think Robo3 has a "heart", unlike the previous movie. On the contrary, RoboCop in 2 still has some range and emotion on him. But in RoboCop 3 Murphy roots for the people, and leaves OCP. That´s an interesting take of the character: he was build to serve his company, and while he stills "upholds the law", but he doesn´t obey orders and tries to do the best for the citizens. We can comply about the tone, the rating or the foolish things in the flick, but the plot makes more sense than builiding a bigger robot with the brain of a drug dealer

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Funny thing, I think Robo3 has a "heart", unlike the previous movie. On the contrary, RoboCop in 2 still has some range and emotion on him. But in RoboCop 3 Murphy roots for the people, and leaves OCP. That´s an interesting take of the character: he was build to serve his company, and while he stills "upholds the law", but he doesn´t obey orders and tries to do the best for the citizens. We can comply about the tone, the rating or the foolish things in the flick, but the plot makes more sense than builiding a bigger robot with the brain of a drug dealer

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Funny thing, I think Robo3 has a "heart", unlike the previous movie. On the contrary, RoboCop in 2 still has some range and emotion on him. But in RoboCop 3 Murphy roots for the people, and leaves OCP. That´s an interesting take of the character: he was build to serve his company, and while he stills "upholds the law", but he doesn´t obey orders and tries to do the best for the citizens. We can comply about the tone, the rating or the foolish things in the flick, but the plot makes more sense than builiding a bigger robot with the brain of a drug dealer

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Great points you are both making Stan and ChAnOoD
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Great points you are both making Stan and ChAnOoD
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Great points you are both making Stan and ChAnOoD
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Great points you are both making Stan and ChAnOoD
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I rate the franchise like this:

Robocop 10/10 (Simply the best movie of all time)
Robocop 2 6/10 (Decent, but not my favourite)
Robocop 3 8/10 (Perfectly satisfying end to the Robocop trilogy)
Robocop TV series 8/10 (I'm not going to be very popular around here)
Robocop PD 1/10 (Worse than the remake. Pure garbage)
RoboCop Remake 2.5/10 (Dreadful, but I like the title card music)
Animated series 5/10 (From what I've seen it's average)
Never seen the Alpha Commando series.

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I rate the franchise like this:

Robocop 10/10 (Simply the best movie of all time)
Robocop 2 6/10 (Decent, but not my favourite)
Robocop 3 8/10 (Perfectly satisfying end to the Robocop trilogy)
Robocop TV series 8/10 (I'm not going to be very popular around here)
Robocop PD 1/10 (Worse than the remake. Pure garbage)
RoboCop Remake 2.5/10 (Dreadful, but I like the title card music)
Animated series 5/10 (From what I've seen it's average)
Never seen the Alpha Commando series.

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I rate the franchise like this:

Robocop 10/10 (Simply the best movie of all time)
Robocop 2 6/10 (Decent, but not my favourite)
Robocop 3 8/10 (Perfectly satisfying end to the Robocop trilogy)
Robocop TV series 8/10 (I'm not going to be very popular around here)
Robocop PD 1/10 (Worse than the remake. Pure garbage)
RoboCop Remake 2.5/10 (Dreadful, but I like the title card music)
Animated series 5/10 (From what I've seen it's average)
Never seen the Alpha Commando series.

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I rate the franchise like this:

Robocop 10/10 (Simply the best movie of all time)
Robocop 2 6/10 (Decent, but not my favourite)
Robocop 3 8/10 (Perfectly satisfying end to the Robocop trilogy)
Robocop TV series 8/10 (I'm not going to be very popular around here)
Robocop PD 1/10 (Worse than the remake. Pure garbage)
RoboCop Remake 2.5/10 (Dreadful, but I like the title card music)
Animated series 5/10 (From what I've seen it's average)
Never seen the Alpha Commando series.

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I'm impressed to see how much opinions have swung

I took for granted the consensus among fans from some years ago, and how different things are now! So, despite getting older we now give R3 more praise than R2? I'm speechless

I think fans we can sometimes become isolationists in our own bubble, I know it because I indulge in that from time to time, we stop listening or caring about non-fans opinions and we claim how the subjective and individualistic nostalgia of childhood is the emotion than wins it all. Yet getting older and a bit wiser sometimes gives perspective to leave behind that childhood fanaticism (which I insist, I've been guilty of it many times, I'm more talking to myself than to others).

I think R3 having a few aesthetic elements more reminiscent of R1, such as music, suit color, police department,... is no more than makeup, while the story, tone and soul of the movie is nothing like R1, it's just a few superficial elements we found pleasing when we were kids, but nothing more. I mean I like Poledouris soundtrack for Conan the Destroyer, but that doesn't make it a good film, and even the soundtracks in both cases are much less inspired than the originals for R1 and Barbarian.

For the story, I've always liked the Delta City arc, but the resolution in R3 is not satisfying if you are not an early teenager. I mean, homeless rebels joining forces with cops to have an open battle against rehabs, tanks and punks in the streets? Not the definition of subtle or smart... More like a teenage fantasy, so far from the adult thinking behind R1.

I'm not saying the idea of making Robo a kind of socialist warrior against corporations is bad in itself, it has some potential, he sees injustice and acts defending the weaker against the powerful and the authority, I can see the dilemma and moral implications, but the ultimate execution of that conflict in the movie is just like a fairy tale on steroids, not a coincidence that Robo ends up flying like Superman to save the people.

Was I moved being 9-10 years old? Yes, it was exciting to see Robo being the superhero, and the good cops like Reed joining the abused people, and I even feel now some nostalgia of those past emotions, but I'm no more a kid, I can compare R3 with so many other movies, and saying it is an 7 or 8 out of 10 I think is not doing a favor to R1, which is genuinely a good movie that attracts praise and attention, with a good IMDB rating of 7.5, while R3 has a 3.9... We're not talking about a 6 or 5-something film we claim is better than it's given credit for, we're talking about a 3.9...

Yes, R1 we liked it when we were kids because it was the coolest thing on earth, not because of social satire, american christ or the odyssey of the human soul (even if at an unconscious level I think we were getting the odd messages more than we realize), but that is why I think is the film of a lifetime for me, because it has the ability to pass the test of time and adulthood, and my favorite movies today include those that I have been able to enjoy both being a kid, teenager and adult, which are not all the ones I loved in the past, many have been left behind, because they were just "exploitation" films for immature and underdeveloped minds (aka children & teens) avid of action, violence, cool looking robots, guns, aliens, monsters, martial arts... While some were smarter and very well crafted, like Robocop, Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Total Recall, First Blood etc. many others were cheesy, dumb and lazy as hell, and then yes there is a grey area of movies in between, but can't see how R3 belongs there at all. At least this is how I've ended up seeing things, I can always change my mind in the future.

Getting back strictly to R3, I think Burke is a good helmetless Robo/Murphy, but he is terrible with the helmet on when talking opening the mouth so widely, he moves painfully slow, like retarded slow, and the screenplay makes Robo useless in every crucial action scene, he gets his ass kicked instead of protecting Lewis, he gets his ass kicked by the first otomo, who's playing with him, it's just luck he can reach the gunarm to win; and finally the 90's child has to save his ass at the end of the movie with some computer magic...

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I'm impressed to see how much opinions have swung

I took for granted the consensus among fans from some years ago, and how different things are now! So, despite getting older we now give R3 more praise than R2? I'm speechless

I think fans we can sometimes become isolationists in our own bubble, I know it because I indulge in that from time to time, we stop listening or caring about non-fans opinions and we claim how the subjective and individualistic nostalgia of childhood is the emotion than wins it all. Yet getting older and a bit wiser sometimes gives perspective to leave behind that childhood fanaticism (which I insist, I've been guilty of it many times, I'm more talking to myself than to others).

I think R3 having a few aesthetic elements more reminiscent of R1, such as music, suit color, police department,... is no more than makeup, while the story, tone and soul of the movie is nothing like R1, it's just a few superficial elements we found pleasing when we were kids, but nothing more. I mean I like Poledouris soundtrack for Conan the Destroyer, but that doesn't make it a good film, and even the soundtracks in both cases are much less inspired than the originals for R1 and Barbarian.

For the story, I've always liked the Delta City arc, but the resolution in R3 is not satisfying if you are not an early teenager. I mean, homeless rebels joining forces with cops to have an open battle against rehabs, tanks and punks in the streets? Not the definition of subtle or smart... More like a teenage fantasy, so far from the adult thinking behind R1.

I'm not saying the idea of making Robo a kind of socialist warrior against corporations is bad in itself, it has some potential, he sees injustice and acts defending the weaker against the powerful and the authority, I can see the dilemma and moral implications, but the ultimate execution of that conflict in the movie is just like a fairy tale on steroids, not a coincidence that Robo ends up flying like Superman to save the people.

Was I moved being 9-10 years old? Yes, it was exciting to see Robo being the superhero, and the good cops like Reed joining the abused people, and I even feel now some nostalgia of those past emotions, but I'm no more a kid, I can compare R3 with so many other movies, and saying it is an 7 or 8 out of 10 I think is not doing a favor to R1, which is genuinely a good movie that attracts praise and attention, with a good IMDB rating of 7.5, while R3 has a 3.9... We're not talking about a 6 or 5-something film we claim is better than it's given credit for, we're talking about a 3.9...

Yes, R1 we liked it when we were kids because it was the coolest thing on earth, not because of social satire, american christ or the odyssey of the human soul (even if at an unconscious level I think we were getting the odd messages more than we realize), but that is why I think is the film of a lifetime for me, because it has the ability to pass the test of time and adulthood, and my favorite movies today include those that I have been able to enjoy both being a kid, teenager and adult, which are not all the ones I loved in the past, many have been left behind, because they were just "exploitation" films for immature and underdeveloped minds (aka children & teens) avid of action, violence, cool looking robots, guns, aliens, monsters, martial arts... While some were smarter and very well crafted, like Robocop, Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Total Recall, First Blood etc. many others were cheesy, dumb and lazy as hell, and then yes there is a grey area of movies in between, but can't see how R3 belongs there at all. At least this is how I've ended up seeing things, I can always change my mind in the future.

Getting back strictly to R3, I think Burke is a good helmetless Robo/Murphy, but he is terrible with the helmet on when talking opening the mouth so widely, he moves painfully slow, like retarded slow, and the screenplay makes Robo useless in every crucial action scene, he gets his ass kicked instead of protecting Lewis, he gets his ass kicked by the first otomo, who's playing with him, it's just luck he can reach the gunarm to win; and finally the 90's child has to save his ass at the end of the movie with some computer magic...

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I'm impressed to see how much opinions have swung

I took for granted the consensus among fans from some years ago, and how different things are now! So, despite getting older we now give R3 more praise than R2? I'm speechless

I think fans we can sometimes become isolationists in our own bubble, I know it because I indulge in that from time to time, we stop listening or caring about non-fans opinions and we claim how the subjective and individualistic nostalgia of childhood is the emotion than wins it all. Yet getting older and a bit wiser sometimes gives perspective to leave behind that childhood fanaticism (which I insist, I've been guilty of it many times, I'm more talking to myself than to others).

I think R3 having a few aesthetic elements more reminiscent of R1, such as music, suit color, police department,... is no more than makeup, while the story, tone and soul of the movie is nothing like R1, it's just a few superficial elements we found pleasing when we were kids, but nothing more. I mean I like Poledouris soundtrack for Conan the Destroyer, but that doesn't make it a good film, and even the soundtracks in both cases are much less inspired than the originals for R1 and Barbarian.

For the story, I've always liked the Delta City arc, but the resolution in R3 is not satisfying if you are not an early teenager. I mean, homeless rebels joining forces with cops to have an open battle against rehabs, tanks and punks in the streets? Not the definition of subtle or smart... More like a teenage fantasy, so far from the adult thinking behind R1.

I'm not saying the idea of making Robo a kind of socialist warrior against corporations is bad in itself, it has some potential, he sees injustice and acts defending the weaker against the powerful and the authority, I can see the dilemma and moral implications, but the ultimate execution of that conflict in the movie is just like a fairy tale on steroids, not a coincidence that Robo ends up flying like Superman to save the people.

Was I moved being 9-10 years old? Yes, it was exciting to see Robo being the superhero, and the good cops like Reed joining the abused people, and I even feel now some nostalgia of those past emotions, but I'm no more a kid, I can compare R3 with so many other movies, and saying it is an 7 or 8 out of 10 I think is not doing a favor to R1, which is genuinely a good movie that attracts praise and attention, with a good IMDB rating of 7.5, while R3 has a 3.9... We're not talking about a 6 or 5-something film we claim is better than it's given credit for, we're talking about a 3.9...

Yes, R1 we liked it when we were kids because it was the coolest thing on earth, not because of social satire, american christ or the odyssey of the human soul (even if at an unconscious level I think we were getting the odd messages more than we realize), but that is why I think is the film of a lifetime for me, because it has the ability to pass the test of time and adulthood, and my favorite movies today include those that I have been able to enjoy both being a kid, teenager and adult, which are not all the ones I loved in the past, many have been left behind, because they were just "exploitation" films for immature and underdeveloped minds (aka children & teens) avid of action, violence, cool looking robots, guns, aliens, monsters, martial arts... While some were smarter and very well crafted, like Robocop, Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Total Recall, First Blood etc. many others were cheesy, dumb and lazy as hell, and then yes there is a grey area of movies in between, but can't see how R3 belongs there at all. At least this is how I've ended up seeing things, I can always change my mind in the future.

Getting back strictly to R3, I think Burke is a good helmetless Robo/Murphy, but he is terrible with the helmet on when talking opening the mouth so widely, he moves painfully slow, like retarded slow, and the screenplay makes Robo useless in every crucial action scene, he gets his ass kicked instead of protecting Lewis, he gets his ass kicked by the first otomo, who's playing with him, it's just luck he can reach the gunarm to win; and finally the 90's child has to save his ass at the end of the movie with some computer magic...

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I'm impressed to see how much opinions have swung

I took for granted the consensus among fans from some years ago, and how different things are now! So, despite getting older we now give R3 more praise than R2? I'm speechless

I think fans we can sometimes become isolationists in our own bubble, I know it because I indulge in that from time to time, we stop listening or caring about non-fans opinions and we claim how the subjective and individualistic nostalgia of childhood is the emotion than wins it all. Yet getting older and a bit wiser sometimes gives perspective to leave behind that childhood fanaticism (which I insist, I've been guilty of it many times, I'm more talking to myself than to others).

I think R3 having a few aesthetic elements more reminiscent of R1, such as music, suit color, police department,... is no more than makeup, while the story, tone and soul of the movie is nothing like R1, it's just a few superficial elements we found pleasing when we were kids, but nothing more. I mean I like Poledouris soundtrack for Conan the Destroyer, but that doesn't make it a good film, and even the soundtracks in both cases are much less inspired than the originals for R1 and Barbarian.

For the story, I've always liked the Delta City arc, but the resolution in R3 is not satisfying if you are not an early teenager. I mean, homeless rebels joining forces with cops to have an open battle against rehabs, tanks and punks in the streets? Not the definition of subtle or smart... More like a teenage fantasy, so far from the adult thinking behind R1.

I'm not saying the idea of making Robo a kind of socialist warrior against corporations is bad in itself, it has some potential, he sees injustice and acts defending the weaker against the powerful and the authority, I can see the dilemma and moral implications, but the ultimate execution of that conflict in the movie is just like a fairy tale on steroids, not a coincidence that Robo ends up flying like Superman to save the people.

Was I moved being 9-10 years old? Yes, it was exciting to see Robo being the superhero, and the good cops like Reed joining the abused people, and I even feel now some nostalgia of those past emotions, but I'm no more a kid, I can compare R3 with so many other movies, and saying it is an 7 or 8 out of 10 I think is not doing a favor to R1, which is genuinely a good movie that attracts praise and attention, with a good IMDB rating of 7.5, while R3 has a 3.9... We're not talking about a 6 or 5-something film we claim is better than it's given credit for, we're talking about a 3.9...

Yes, R1 we liked it when we were kids because it was the coolest thing on earth, not because of social satire, american christ or the odyssey of the human soul (even if at an unconscious level I think we were getting the odd messages more than we realize), but that is why I think is the film of a lifetime for me, because it has the ability to pass the test of time and adulthood, and my favorite movies today include those that I have been able to enjoy both being a kid, teenager and adult, which are not all the ones I loved in the past, many have been left behind, because they were just "exploitation" films for immature and underdeveloped minds (aka children & teens) avid of action, violence, cool looking robots, guns, aliens, monsters, martial arts... While some were smarter and very well crafted, like Robocop, Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Total Recall, First Blood etc. many others were cheesy, dumb and lazy as hell, and then yes there is a grey area of movies in between, but can't see how R3 belongs there at all. At least this is how I've ended up seeing things, I can always change my mind in the future.

Getting back strictly to R3, I think Burke is a good helmetless Robo/Murphy, but he is terrible with the helmet on when talking opening the mouth so widely, he moves painfully slow, like retarded slow, and the screenplay makes Robo useless in every crucial action scene, he gets his ass kicked instead of protecting Lewis, he gets his ass kicked by the first otomo, who's playing with him, it's just luck he can reach the gunarm to win; and finally the 90's child has to save his ass at the end of the movie with some computer magic...