Is Robo immortal?

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I guess I should answer the question that is this topic. The answer is No. I believe that they have the tech to save his memories, thoughts, dreams, whatever. But even if his consciousness was transferred to something, that is still a copy or clone, and not him. I feel at least. I don't buy the whole live forever, upload your "everything" into a hard drive or some shit. Bullshit. You are dead. Some program replicating you lives on.

Organically I feel that he would actually live less time with all the trauma his brain has gone through. Although it is in a nice clean and sterile capsule I would imagine the risk of infection and rejection of the whole body would be a real and constant concern. This is one of the few things I liked about the new movie. I liked that they were cleaning the blood and feeding him that way, administering antibiotics. Plus they could put some anti depressants right in there. I thought that was pretty satirical and cool.

An old RoboCop would be a neat story I think. I can see it going a million different ways in my head. Maybe that's how it could go. A bunch of mini stories, some great battles and moments over the years, and it ends with him shutting down for good and it was his life flashing before his eyes. Sees himself dying at the end in a mirror but doesn't see the suit/body. Just looks normal.


In reply To Johans quote from Verhoeven.... It is hard for me to understand exactly what he is saying there, but I agree with you on the soul concept being interesting.

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I guess I should answer the question that is this topic. The answer is No. I believe that they have the tech to save his memories, thoughts, dreams, whatever. But even if his consciousness was transferred to something, that is still a copy or clone, and not him. I feel at least. I don't buy the whole live forever, upload your "everything" into a hard drive or some shit. Bullshit. You are dead. Some program replicating you lives on.

Organically I feel that he would actually live less time with all the trauma his brain has gone through. Although it is in a nice clean and sterile capsule I would imagine the risk of infection and rejection of the whole body would be a real and constant concern. This is one of the few things I liked about the new movie. I liked that they were cleaning the blood and feeding him that way, administering antibiotics. Plus they could put some anti depressants right in there. I thought that was pretty satirical and cool.

An old RoboCop would be a neat story I think. I can see it going a million different ways in my head. Maybe that's how it could go. A bunch of mini stories, some great battles and moments over the years, and it ends with him shutting down for good and it was his life flashing before his eyes. Sees himself dying at the end in a mirror but doesn't see the suit/body. Just looks normal.


In reply To Johans quote from Verhoeven.... It is hard for me to understand exactly what he is saying there, but I agree with you on the soul concept being interesting.

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I guess I should answer the question that is this topic. The answer is No. I believe that they have the tech to save his memories, thoughts, dreams, whatever. But even if his consciousness was transferred to something, that is still a copy or clone, and not him. I feel at least. I don't buy the whole live forever, upload your "everything" into a hard drive or some shit. Bullshit. You are dead. Some program replicating you lives on.

Organically I feel that he would actually live less time with all the trauma his brain has gone through. Although it is in a nice clean and sterile capsule I would imagine the risk of infection and rejection of the whole body would be a real and constant concern. This is one of the few things I liked about the new movie. I liked that they were cleaning the blood and feeding him that way, administering antibiotics. Plus they could put some anti depressants right in there. I thought that was pretty satirical and cool.

An old RoboCop would be a neat story I think. I can see it going a million different ways in my head. Maybe that's how it could go. A bunch of mini stories, some great battles and moments over the years, and it ends with him shutting down for good and it was his life flashing before his eyes. Sees himself dying at the end in a mirror but doesn't see the suit/body. Just looks normal.


In reply To Johans quote from Verhoeven.... It is hard for me to understand exactly what he is saying there, but I agree with you on the soul concept being interesting.

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I guess I should answer the question that is this topic. The answer is No. I believe that they have the tech to save his memories, thoughts, dreams, whatever. But even if his consciousness was transferred to something, that is still a copy or clone, and not him. I feel at least. I don't buy the whole live forever, upload your "everything" into a hard drive or some shit. Bullshit. You are dead. Some program replicating you lives on.

Organically I feel that he would actually live less time with all the trauma his brain has gone through. Although it is in a nice clean and sterile capsule I would imagine the risk of infection and rejection of the whole body would be a real and constant concern. This is one of the few things I liked about the new movie. I liked that they were cleaning the blood and feeding him that way, administering antibiotics. Plus they could put some anti depressants right in there. I thought that was pretty satirical and cool.

An old RoboCop would be a neat story I think. I can see it going a million different ways in my head. Maybe that's how it could go. A bunch of mini stories, some great battles and moments over the years, and it ends with him shutting down for good and it was his life flashing before his eyes. Sees himself dying at the end in a mirror but doesn't see the suit/body. Just looks normal.


In reply To Johans quote from Verhoeven.... It is hard for me to understand exactly what he is saying there, but I agree with you on the soul concept being interesting.

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I liked hearing Verhoeven's input on the human and robot brain. Thanks for sharing that. I guess the concept of human soul is the part of Murphy that remains influencing the machine. I always thought of Robocop as a man living inside this machine, but I see how that can end up being very emotionally heavy. The Robocop remake has some difficulty reconciling that (I am thinking of the scene where Alex sees what is left of him). That being the case, I like the traditional notion that Robocop is this machine (made to look human for the sake of the citizens he serves), but happens to retain some of the soul/humanity of the human that he once was. It doesn't leave the character much of a future unless if he can somehow grow as he lives on. While the Prime Directives show attempted to do this, it almost seems counterintuitive since (according to Verhoeven), Robocop is not human anymore (physically). Machines/computers can learn and adapt to be more efficient or accessible, but not like a person can. I guess we can just be satisfied in knowing that Robocop is like no other machine and can do things that surprise us. Or I can just stop trying to apply logic to fictional scenarios.

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I liked hearing Verhoeven's input on the human and robot brain. Thanks for sharing that. I guess the concept of human soul is the part of Murphy that remains influencing the machine. I always thought of Robocop as a man living inside this machine, but I see how that can end up being very emotionally heavy. The Robocop remake has some difficulty reconciling that (I am thinking of the scene where Alex sees what is left of him). That being the case, I like the traditional notion that Robocop is this machine (made to look human for the sake of the citizens he serves), but happens to retain some of the soul/humanity of the human that he once was. It doesn't leave the character much of a future unless if he can somehow grow as he lives on. While the Prime Directives show attempted to do this, it almost seems counterintuitive since (according to Verhoeven), Robocop is not human anymore (physically). Machines/computers can learn and adapt to be more efficient or accessible, but not like a person can. I guess we can just be satisfied in knowing that Robocop is like no other machine and can do things that surprise us. Or I can just stop trying to apply logic to fictional scenarios.

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I liked hearing Verhoeven's input on the human and robot brain. Thanks for sharing that. I guess the concept of human soul is the part of Murphy that remains influencing the machine. I always thought of Robocop as a man living inside this machine, but I see how that can end up being very emotionally heavy. The Robocop remake has some difficulty reconciling that (I am thinking of the scene where Alex sees what is left of him). That being the case, I like the traditional notion that Robocop is this machine (made to look human for the sake of the citizens he serves), but happens to retain some of the soul/humanity of the human that he once was. It doesn't leave the character much of a future unless if he can somehow grow as he lives on. While the Prime Directives show attempted to do this, it almost seems counterintuitive since (according to Verhoeven), Robocop is not human anymore (physically). Machines/computers can learn and adapt to be more efficient or accessible, but not like a person can. I guess we can just be satisfied in knowing that Robocop is like no other machine and can do things that surprise us. Or I can just stop trying to apply logic to fictional scenarios.

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I liked hearing Verhoeven's input on the human and robot brain. Thanks for sharing that. I guess the concept of human soul is the part of Murphy that remains influencing the machine. I always thought of Robocop as a man living inside this machine, but I see how that can end up being very emotionally heavy. The Robocop remake has some difficulty reconciling that (I am thinking of the scene where Alex sees what is left of him). That being the case, I like the traditional notion that Robocop is this machine (made to look human for the sake of the citizens he serves), but happens to retain some of the soul/humanity of the human that he once was. It doesn't leave the character much of a future unless if he can somehow grow as he lives on. While the Prime Directives show attempted to do this, it almost seems counterintuitive since (according to Verhoeven), Robocop is not human anymore (physically). Machines/computers can learn and adapt to be more efficient or accessible, but not like a person can. I guess we can just be satisfied in knowing that Robocop is like no other machine and can do things that surprise us. Or I can just stop trying to apply logic to fictional scenarios.