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Spectrum Scarlet
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| razgriz21 : | As for an actor, I say get Ross Marquand (Aaron from The Walking Dead). He's an inch taller then Peter but he is a great celebrity impersonator as evidenced here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2E0--KH_Gs
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I'd go with him. Be great to hear a Weller impression.
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RoboWags
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:56 pm |
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| pengbuzz : | | As much as I'd love to see Peter return to the role, I think the best I'd hope for is his voice in an animated feature. He was remarkable in the animated adaption of The Dark Knight Returns, and I think he might agree to that. But unless they could convincingly do the CGI (no way I think He would wear the suit again, he's not young and it did a number on him in the 80's!), I fear live action might be out of reach here. |
I agree, he would most likely be down for a voice-over if they did a high quality animated movie. I would love to see that! The Dark Knight Returns was really well done and if they gave Robo the same treatment it would be awesome.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:45 am |
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Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again.
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Stan The Man
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:07 pm |
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| RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
You know I gotta say I'm quite with this, actually.
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AceAlive1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:45 am |
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| RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
they de aged kurt russell and patrick stewart, also special fx have gotten light years better as far as costumes go (less weight, more ventilation) weller could reprise robocop with no issue these days.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:48 am |
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| AceAlive1 : | | weller could reprise robocop with no issue these days. |
Well, no, not really. The problem isn't really the technology. Yes, Weller's biggest issue with the role at the time of making the films was the tedious process of getting in and out of the costume. But, there is more to it than that too. He has repeatedly stated he has no interest in the character anymore, and for use flat out refused to even talk about Robocop. More recently he has opened up a bit, like his comments after Miguel Ferrer's passing. But that does not mean he is ready to jump back in the suit, even if it is a digital one. Now, I'd love to be proved wrong and see him come back of course, but it doesn't seem like he needs the money or has the passion, so i would not expect to see him back in any form. I think he really does want to maintain his distance from the role, which he sees as pushing his career in the wrong direction. I think my idea to have him come back as the Old Man would be a cool compromise, but even a cameo is unlikely. Either way, there is much more involved in his decision to return than just the technology behind the suit.
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artuditu
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:23 pm |
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| AceAlive1 : | | RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
they de aged kurt russell and patrick stewart, also special fx have gotten light years better as far as costumes go (less weight, more ventilation) weller could reprise robocop with no issue these days. |
They de-age characters for brief scenes or cameos, not for whole movies, it's a costly process that is not realistic for a new RoboCop movie, too much effort to please a very few purist fans stuck in nostalgia and who refuse to accept the cycle of life. Would you rather spend half the budget in retouching Weller's face, or in having high-end VFX, settings and production design?
| RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
That's a very cool idea. Although I feel seniority in big corporations is not a thing anymore, I'm not surprised there was no old man in the robomake.
What other senior roles could there be for Weller? Maybe Sgt. Reed?
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JudgeRic0
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Given Blomkamp's aborted Alien 5 project - where he aimed to get Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn back as Ripley and Hicks - I imagine he'll at least try and get Weller back as Robocop. I mean do they really need to de-age him? I'm not saying it's ideal but can't they go with a Terminator Genisys explanation that the living tissue on his face has aged?
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| artuditu : | | AceAlive1 : | | RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
they de aged kurt russell and patrick stewart, also special fx have gotten light years better as far as costumes go (less weight, more ventilation) weller could reprise robocop with no issue these days. |
They de-age characters for brief scenes or cameos, not for whole movies, it's a costly process that is not realistic for a new RoboCop movie, too much effort to please a very few purist fans stuck in nostalgia and who refuse to accept the cycle of life. Would you rather spend half the budget in retouching Weller's face, or in having high-end VFX, settings and production design?
| RoboPimp : | | Here's an idea. Now that Peter Weller is an old man, why not have him play The Old Man? He wouldn't have to get in the suit, and based on his appearance in Star Trek: into Darkness, he could pull it off flawlessly. I think it would be a cool to bring him back, given it highly unlikely he would ever play Robo again. |
That's a very cool idea. Although I feel seniority in big corporations is not a thing anymore, I'm not surprised there was no old man in the robomake.
What other senior roles could there be for Weller? Maybe Sgt. Reed? |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-aging_in_film
"brief scenes or cameos" ?
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NukeLord
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The thing is...do they really need to do a complete de-age job on Weller? All but pretty much his eye area was under heavy latex in the first two films.
Sure, eyes form wrinkles and age lines but I'm sure this can be corrected by make-up or even air-brushed - without a complete de-age operation.
I personally don't think it's a massive deal for the above reason. The Terminator character is different as we see the whole of Arnie's face for the entire movie.
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Stan The Man
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| AceAlive1 : | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-aging_in_film
"brief scenes or cameos" ? |
Bah that only proves artu's point - most of those are stated to be done 'in flashbacks' which indeed are typically short sequences. Others are done with actors that were not 70 fucking years old when they did their 'de-aging'. And nonetheless as artuditu pointed out we're talking about Terminator/Genesys, LotR/Hobbit and Star Wars/Rouge One - these are huge movies as part of huge franchises with no doubt huge budgets allotted to them. Sorry but RoboCop just isn't gonna be on that level in terms of having the expense and wherewithal for doing a whole bunch of digital trickery. And doing it with make-up and traditional techniques will be a time consuming and tedious process that I doubt Weller will be up to doing again. It was hours just to do what they did for the original film and they didn't even have to worry about a wrinkled-ass face.
Which leads me to the primary rebuttal that really has dick to do with the logistics of de-aging - It's as has been said more a case of interest for Weller more than anything else. I'm sure part of him still respects the character and what it represents and always will but all-told he's all but moved on. And that is the deal. Frankly I could tell it some in the tone of his speech at the screening in Dallas, and I doubt much has changed in the last year. I don't even need to point out his flat-out refusal to even do a brief spot in RoboDoc. Yes we all on some level would like to see Weller put on the suit again but that said ask anyone who's worn the damn thing how that goes - then ask them if they could see themselves doing it at 70. Anyone not deluding themselves knows what the answer will be there. Yes I know modern techniques allow them to make less ponderous suit but even then you're asking a lot for the guy at his age. Of course plenty still do acting even physical stuff at that age but Weller frankly is not one of those types.
I'm sorry but gotta be real and bein' real best we can hope for realistically is some kind of cameo role for Weller. Maybe a brief scene or two of him as an 'old' RoboMurphy if he doesn't play another role but that's about as optimistic as I plan to get. I don't doubt Blomkamp will try to get Weller back and while I still think he's the best person to helm this deal next to the mad Dutchman himself I very much doubt he'll get it to happen. Not saying it's impossible, but it's damn unlikely.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:49 pm |
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Pretty sure part of the story will be about the fact that Robo HAS aged. He gets put back online after presumably 30 years or so and if they get Weller back it will fit the story that he looks older.
Just how robo ages with the whole "Murphys face stretched over a metal skull" concept is a bit sketchy, but most people think it is his own head anyway so maybe it doesn't matter.
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RoboCop 6000
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Amazingly , this was exactly of i was expecting when RoboCop 2 was announced in 1990. A real continuity of Verhoeven's work , but when i see the release , oh well it RoboCop 2 was good enough to fill my expectations at the time. But as we can tell no true sequel of the original was seen in RoboCop 2 , which is dated several years ago from Murphy's dead like O'herlihy (The old man) say at the civic centrum in the [SEQUEL 😑] final secuence. Happy to hear about a new movie based in the Verhoeven's masterpiece. But the true continuation of the first one , with all the elements intact straight from Verhoeven's and Weller essence. Glad to hear about it , i'm very exited this makes my day. BTW long time no see fellas , hoping everybody of you is pretty exellent like everyday , glad to came back and with a wonderful news like this new REAL SEQUEL project.👍✌☺
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| Archive : | Pretty sure part of the story will be about the fact that Robo HAS aged. He gets put back online after presumably 30 years or so and if they get Weller back it will fit the story that he looks older.
Just how robo ages with the whole "Murphys face stretched over a metal skull" concept is a bit sketchy, but most people think it is his own head anyway so maybe it doesn't matter. |
If Weller get back this will be greater, but this will change the route of a true Verhoeven's sequel due to the aging fact . Unless they use CGI like in Terminator 5 Genisys , when they manage to recreate another Arnold in the 1984 sequence idk but, that could work.🤔
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