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I wouldn't be totally against Burke either, as long as Neil got him to tone down the wide mouth when speaking and get him to slow down and refine his movements. And get a suit and helmet that actually fits his body shape obviously.
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Judge Black
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Has there been any official confirmation of Weller's non-involvement other than 'SuperBroMovies' (never heard of them until now)?
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I don't think we were gonna need anyone to tell us Weller wouldn't be back in the role. It's beyond obvious that he wouldn't. He's in his 70's, doesn't like talking about the character any more, he's done with the character/franchise. It would be pointless even asking him. Those holding out on a faint hope of him coming back were ust deluding themselves.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:05 am |
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| PFMC84 : | | I don't think we were gonna need anyone to tell us Weller wouldn't be back in the role. It's beyond obvious that he wouldn't. He's in his 70's, doesn't like talking about the character any more, he's done with the character/franchise. It would be pointless even asking him. Those holding out on a faint hope of him coming back were ust deluding themselves. |
Recently said at a fan convention when asked if he was back for "RoboCop Returns" - "I can't talk about that".
Weller is so blunt and straight-talking, he would've said a straight "no". If that were the case.
I personally think this eludes to three scenarios:
1) Weller returns for one last big pay cheque in the main role. He would probably get a kick out of his young son seeing his Father in a blockbuster role. Not to mention he is getting older and could probably demand the salary of his lifetime to return for one final time.
2) Weller returns as the RoboCop as we knew it only for the opening scene from the original Corporate Wars script where RoboCop is blown to pieces within ten minutes. He is later rebuilt (which is when a different actor can seamlessly take his place.)
3) He's in negotiations for MGM/Orion to use his likeness. We've seen some of the magic, prop builders can do themselves on this forum. A CGI or latex face can work.
4) Add 3) He also lends his voice to 3. All RoboCop voices were added in post-production.
I think it's telling he didn't outright say "No". This is a guy that is sooooooo forthright with what he says. If none of the above happens - I suspect we will hear that the above four points were attempted to be negotiated in the extras in years to come.
Thoughts?
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| NukeLord : | I personally think this eludes to three scenarios:
1) Weller returns for one last big pay cheque in the main role. He would probably get a kick out of his young son seeing his Father in a blockbuster role. Not to mention he is getting older and could probably demand the salary of his lifetime to return for one final time. |
Not a chance. For one thing, this isn't Star Wars or Marvel, and I don't think "the salary of his lifetime" is in the budget for this iteration of Robocop. I also don't think Weller is up to a full return, though I do agree that him not saying no is telling, especially given his previous stance on returning the the role. These other options seem much more likely.
| NukeLord : | | 2) Weller returns as the RoboCop as we knew it only for the opening scene from the original Corporate Wars script where RoboCop is blown to pieces within ten minutes. He is later rebuilt (which is when a different actor can seamlessly take his place.) |
Now this is something I could totally get behind, and could also see realistically happening. It would kind of be best of both worlds, where we actually get to see Weller back as Robocop on the big screen, but without the need for an entire film of it. I would certainly love to see this happen and I am rooting for this one.
| NukeLord : | | 3) He's in negotiations for MGM/Orion to use his likeness. We've seen some of the magic, prop builders can do themselves on this forum. A CGI or latex face can work. |
This could easily happen too. His likeness was used for Hot Toys figures, so it's no stretch of the imagination to imagine he's sell the rights for this. It could work out great too, especially if kept to a minimum for a few key scenes. I mean, imagine it was kinda like the first movie where we don't see Robocop take his helmet off until near the end. And then it's Weller's likeness. It would put the Leia scene in Rogue One to shame with all the nostalgic tears.
| NukeLord : | | 4) Add 3) He also lends his voice to 3. All RoboCop voices were added in post-production. |
A lot of people have been suggesting this and it is probably the most likely choice to actually happen. And it would be totally fine. Weller has shown he is happy to do voice-over work, and this is probably the only way we could have him fully onboard with his name headlining the film. But if they do this, I hope Robocop either doesn't take off his helmet, or if he does his face is mangled beyond recognition. I wouldn't want to see Weller's voice on anyone else's face, though the digital likeness thing could be used with voiceover too like you said.
These are all good ideas, and aside from the first one, they all seem plausible to me. Obviously, we'd all love to see him back in full form, but one of the less hands-on options is much more likely. I would also like to add one more option:
5) Weller appears, but in a cameo or role other than Robocop. I have suggested he could play the Old Man, but I also think it would be cool to see him do a cameo like the Stan Lee ones in Marvel movies. Imagine Robocop stops a drunk old homeless guy and tells him to move along, and then the guy turns to Robocop to curse him out and he is played by none other than Peter Weller! One can dream...
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| NukeLord : | | 3) He's in negotiations for MGM/Orion to use his likeness. We've seen some of the magic, prop builders can do themselves on this forum. A CGI or latex face can work. |
I can definitely see this one happening. Like Robopimp also pointed out, they could go the "Rouge One" way and have an actor play Robo and replace his face with a CG Weller. Younger or the age as is.
The only thing Weller would then really do is re-dub the lines. Throw him some money and i'm sure he'd be up to it.
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1) When I say the "salary of a lifetime", I'm not talking 50m Arnold Schwarzenegger money. Blomkamp is a cyborg/robot fan with movies just like the rest of us.  He's already stated on Twitter the only person to play RoboCop is Peter Weller. His movies have made money for studios, Ed Neumeier is on board and he's friends with the MGM CEO. I have no doubt Neumeier and Blomkamp are seriously pushing for Weller's return "Pay him what he wants". Peter Weller is a multi-millionaire and arguably his biggest pay-cheque was RoboCop 2 when he asked for more money "because he was already done with the character" in 1990. If Google estimates are correct, he's worth about 10 million. The budget of the 2014 remake was 100m (from memory)...if the new sequel is estimated at a $150m budget. With Neumeier and Blomkamp on board - I think could Weller could earn up to 10m for this picture.
2) The passing of the torch moment would be iconic. He'd be well paid for it - and I believe he would enjoy being well paid for it and "passing the torch" to someone else who can carry on the franchise. Though he sometimes seems disinterested. The man is an extremely intelligent guy who takes scripts very seriously. If the script is good, I think he'll happily return to pass the torch. I already envisage the DVD/BluRay extra of him repeating "I was done with the character in 1988, but I was happy to return for Ed and Neill so the story could move on."
3) Agree. Robocop unmasked has only ever been in few scenes. The RoboCop/Murphy character was a shitshow after RoboCop 2. Like I always say it's like someone playing the T-800 as Arnie. Though Weller doesn't have the star power of Arnie...there's still only one RoboCop people recognise.
4) Money talks. "Record some dialogue and you'll be well paid" for it. Blomkamp is a massive fan so I see this being a possibility.
I'm aware I'm talking a lot about money - but I think we all know, money will have a lot to do with it to entice him back.
Whatever happens I think there are some negotiations going on because like I said, Weller is straight-up - if there's no way it's happening it's a "no" or even an angry "No, I've said before I'm done with RoboCop!" Just the way the guy is.
Things have become a little more interesting.
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NukeLord I agree, money talks.Peter might be involved in one way or another, I think the producers
know that their movie will benefit from him.I'mnot looking forward to this movie, but with him, I would
reconsider and pay the ticket.
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Will add as well that Peter Weller is a guy at 71, that still enjoys attending fan conventions.
He goes out of his way to meet fans when he doesn't have to. Simply because he obviously enjoys meeting fans.
He's "tired of talking about" the 1987 movie, from 32 years ago - but if the script is good. I think he could surprise us all. He seems to love the convention side, but detests sitting down for an interview side.
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| NukeLord : | | 2) The passing of the torch moment would be iconic. He'd be well paid for it - and I believe he would enjoy being well paid for it and "passing the torch" to someone else who can carry on the franchise. Though he sometimes seems disinterested. |
I agree with everything said here and this could work perfectly. Weller returns for one final sendoff which everyone wants, but can also pass the torch or 'burden' of being Robocop onto someone else. Because nobody ever came close. But here he could be like look this dude is Robocop now not me OK? And of course we would still be like nahh you are Robocop forever and always but still would be pretty cool.
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NukeLord
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| RoboPimp : | | NukeLord : | | 2) The passing of the torch moment would be iconic. He'd be well paid for it - and I believe he would enjoy being well paid for it and "passing the torch" to someone else who can carry on the franchise. Though he sometimes seems disinterested. |
I agree with everything said here and this could work perfectly. Weller returns for one final sendoff which everyone wants, but can also pass the torch or 'burden' of being Robocop onto someone else. Because nobody ever came close. But here he could be like look this dude is Robocop now not me OK? And of course we would still be like nahh you are Robocop forever and always but still would be pretty cool. |
100% agree. "burden" Straight out of the Peter Weller vocabulary handbook. Also agree with your earlier post that such a transition would need to be handled carefully. If the "new" RoboCop is a new guy that looks and sounds nothing like the classic RoboCop - then the movie drastically loses immersion.
I would like to see a "passing of the torch" moment. Even if Weller is back for the whole movie as the lead, I would like to see an unhappy ending for Murphy when he is destroyed (thus setting up the sequel for when he is rebuilt and a new actor takes the reigns). With Weller being almost 72, he will need to pass the torch soon.
In fact whatever happens. I think it would be fresh to see a dark, shocking ending. In the first three movies, they all end happily and he makes a one liner. Maybe tease the audience, have him save the day - as the camera zooms in and then blow him half way through the one liner when the audience just isn't expecting it.
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I don't know how many of you follow Neill Blomkamp on Instagram, but I noticed today that he's removed at least a couple of posts where he directly references Robocop.
The deleted posts showed a shot of a glorious ED-290 model in the Oats office as well as a Robocop 1 style OCP logo. There are still plenty of moderninist and brutal architecture and some images of urban decay, where people are gleefully commenting about their own anticipation for Robo, but nothing directly from him.
Considering his planned Alien film fell through, along with the uncertainty about Peter Weller, I'm getting an anxious feeling.
His twitter feed is still rife with robo references though, so am I overthinking?
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| Bob Obba : | | I don't know how many of you follow Neill Blomkamp on Instagram, but I noticed today that he's removed at least a couple of posts where he directly references Robocop. |
That isn't good. 
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