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vegasrobo RoboGod and Shit
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:33 pm |
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Very Interesting I still like 3.
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RoboPimp PIMPY SUPREME
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vegasrobo : | Very Interesting I still like 3. |
As any true Robocop fan would.
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KidGoesWild L-L3
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:25 pm |
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HOB888 : | I don't like R3 as a sequel but I do like some parts here and there throughout the movie.
- the return of Bixby Snyder
- ED209 (I liked to see it )
- when the rehab vilain throws the bills, in the suburbs
- the commercials and media breaks
- the guys who commits suicide in the OCP building
- when fleck says he'd do that privately and shows his gun
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You know, R3 got a lot of stuff wrong and really strayed away from what Robocop started out as, but it still retained some major elements in. Basil's music is phenomenal (especially Resistance Base) and what is always praised, but aside from the music it still retained some of that gloomy, hopeless, depressing feeling the other two had. Nikko's parents die, some of the main characters die, like Lewis, Bertha. The city is "saved" from OCP but is basically in ruins almost, with a lot lost, thus, as in R1, the whole thing has a bittersweet ending - the revenge is carried on, the battle is won, but all that is lost is still gone. McDagget is a continuation of the line of the cynical, ice cold characters. Burke, thanks to work with Yakim, does great job physically as Robo
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Rick CH-L4
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:22 pm |
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We may not get Tom Noonan saying anything any time soon I don't think. From doing a little reading on his IMDb page, someone posted that he was at a sci-fi convention around 2007 and talked about his screen roles. He didn't mention RoboCop 2 at all and he did say at one point that "there is one film I'm not proud of".
Take form that what you will. Looks like Tom, Peter, Nancy and who else in the cast didn't like making the film sadly. _________________
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:53 pm |
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Tom Noonan might feel, at this point in his life, that making Robo2 was a low point.
Kinda how Weller was sick of Robo for a while and wanting to be acknowledged for his more finer work. He came around though.
Anyway, Noonan did talk briefly about the movie in the "RoboCop: The Definitive History" book.
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KidGoesWild L-L3
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Comment: I type it, you think it
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artuditu mio Cid
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:20 pm |
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Maybe he is not proud of the movie, but I would never list Noonan among the worst things of R2, actually the opposite.
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Stan The Man Bah Concepts Division
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Comment: I'm the guy in Old Archive.
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artuditu : | Maybe he is not proud of the movie, but I would never list Noonan among the worst things of R2, actually the opposite. |
Seconded. _________________ I don't wanna pay that, PhotoBucket. Now maybe you haven't heard, but I'm the guy in old Archive. So hows about you just shit snow for a year and I'll figure out something else. Sayonara!
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HOB888 O-L5
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:36 pm |
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KidGoesWild : | HOB888 : | I don't like R3 as a sequel but I do like some parts here and there throughout the movie.
- the return of Bixby Snyder
- ED209 (I liked to see it )
- when the rehab vilain throws the bills, in the suburbs
- the commercials and media breaks
- the guys who commits suicide in the OCP building
- when fleck says he'd do that privately and shows his gun
- and some more stuffs. |
You know, R3 got a lot of stuff wrong and really strayed away from what Robocop started out as, but it still retained some major elements in. Basil's music is phenomenal (especially Resistance Base) and what is always praised, but aside from the music it still retained some of that gloomy, hopeless, depressing feeling the other two had. Nikko's parents die, some of the main characters die, like Lewis, Bertha. The city is "saved" from OCP but is basically in ruins almost, with a lot lost, thus, as in R1, the whole thing has a bittersweet ending - the revenge is carried on, the battle is won, but all that is lost is still gone. McDagget is a continuation of the line of the cynical, ice cold characters. Burke, thanks to work with Yakim, does great job physically as Robo
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Agreed, Robo3 has enough good things ,to own the dvd.I'm sorry to say I haven't watched 3 since maybe 2 years, but I remember most of it, I think the Rehab's attack of the civils was brilliant.
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Edd 209 C-L1
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:59 am |
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That's an awesome little q&a with Dekker, Archive. Would be great to know a lot more. I had no idea about The Old Man situation that was great to know
You can't beat adding more Roboinfo into the memory bank in the hope that one day you will be called upon to use it! _________________ Roobocop // The future of Australian justice...
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:22 pm |
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While doing the remastered and extended super deluxe version of "Facts and Fiction" Episode 4 i asked Fred Dekker about the curious addition in the comic adaptation that the CEO is Bob Mortons father. He was kind enough to give me a lengthy and informative answer!
"That was my idea. I had worked with Miguel Ferrer on "Tales From The Crypt" and loved him --so when we lost Dan O'Herlihy I wanted to hire Miguel's real father, the great Jose Ferrer, to play the new CEO.
Unfortunately, the Ferrer Sr. was in ill health (he would pass away two years later), so the idea was jettisoned and we hired Rip Torn. The comic may have been written before we made this change, as movie tie-ins often have long lead times, so comics and novelizations have plot elements that have been abandoned by the time the movie's released.
But the idea that Bob's dad was a highly-placed OCP exec prior to taking over for the Old Man suggests that nepotism played a part in Bob getting his job in the first place... which I found amusing."
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RoboPimp PIMPY SUPREME
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Comment: "You dead wrong if ya think that pimpin' gon' die" - Snoop Dogg, P.I.M.P. (Remix)
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:07 pm |
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An interesting idea and it is great to hear a little more behinds the scenes trivia that I didn't before. That said, I'm glad they didn't pursue that idea. It seems like another typical Robocop 3 half-baked plot point that doesn't add much to the end product. I think it would have felt like a strained connection to the first film, especially since Bob Morton was not even mentioned in RoboCop 2 (correct me if I am wrong). Rip Torn did a great job in the role and was one of the better characters in RoboCop 3.
Looking back on the whole film, the best scene and more important is the moment all the cops turn in their badges and Sgt Reed leads them in a fight for true justice. That is great stuff, the kind of storytelling that is classic Robo, makes for a great character arc for Reed, and is the emotional heart of the the film. When I analyze RoboCop 3 now, my analysis centers on that moment, and anything that does not directly lead to that moment or come from it is arbitrary in RoboCop 3, and there is a lot of stuff that fits that criteria. While it would have been interesting having Ferrer Sr. take the role, it would not have been more than a fun bit of fan service. So while I am happy to hear about this piece of trivia, I can't say it was a great idea or that it would have been better if they had gone through with it. You do gotta love those old comic adaptions though for bringing stuff like this to light.
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