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Rick CH-L4
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:36 pm |
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JANUARY UPDATE:
As you will be aware since our last update in September the U.K. has been in two lockdowns. The most recent national lockdown started last week.
This does have an impact on our post-production including the work of our team, legal, scoring, effects, distribution and sales.
The team are continuing to work on each section of the documentary and are making excellent progress. We will update as soon as the current lockdown is over and/or we have relevant updates to share.
Stay safe and take care. _________________
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ChAnOoD DC-L4
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:55 pm |
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I was going to post that.
Well, at least we have an update.
EDIT: It seems some people got upset about the last update:
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PLEASE NOTE: whereas we fully understand the frustration and impatience of those who supported and are looking forward to this project, we will NOT accept abuse and name-calling towards our crew!
The proof is in the pudding, the clips and trailers we have published clearly show that this is not a scam. If it was, it is the worst scam in history, that has cost us a lot more than was initially raised...
In fact over Ģ60k more.
It is evident from the commitment and enthusiasm shown by our directors that this project is a labour of love and is going to be amazing!
We ask again for your patience and support. Criticism and concern is one thing BUT abuse and outright defamation will be deleted and those behind it will be banned from our page.
Again HUGE THANKS to everyone who has been behind us from day one. It means a great deal! |
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ChAnOoD DC-L4
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:31 am |
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I'm happy they finally managed to capture that elusive wild Weller, and from the brief footage shown he seems to be in a great mood. No grumpy Weller.
I do imagine that they will have to spend a lot of time re-editing some stuff as they pretty much constructed this thing around the fact that Weller wasn't in it. The end product will of course, as always, be worth the wait.
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ChAnOoD DC-L4
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 11:30 am |
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Archive : | I'm happy they finally managed to capture that elusive wild Weller, and from the brief footage shown he seems to be in a great mood. No grumpy Weller. |
I wonder if "In Search Of Tomorrow" have anything to do with this, perhaps moneywise? Anyway, itīs nice to see Weller on this. A little bit too much goofy on these edits, but great to see the man on this.
Archive : | I do imagine that they will have to spend a lot of time re-editing some stuff as they pretty much constructed this thing around the fact that Weller wasn't in it. The end product will of course, as always, be worth the wait. |
Yes. They claimed theyīre on the last steps of post-production, so I wonder how Wellerīs stuff would fit on the (almost) finished documentary/ies. Re-edits or having a special segment as a bonus for him, like an "exclusive interview with Weller".
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edgeofthecosmos O-L2
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 1:48 pm |
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That's great news , def worth the wait.
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RoboPimp PIMPY SUPREME
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Comment: "You dead wrong if ya think that pimpin' gon' die" - Snoop Dogg, P.I.M.P. (Remix)
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:54 pm |
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ChAnOoD : | Yes. They claimed theyīre on the last steps of post-production, so I wonder how Wellerīs stuff would fit on the (almost) finished documentary/ies. Re-edits or having a special segment as a bonus for him, like an "exclusive interview with Weller". |
I think it might work better as a special segment of its own, or if not entirely standalone more of a contained segment. If could be cool if they save it for the end, so you have heard everybody talking about Robo and then you are rewarded with the man himself. They could still splice relevant movie clips into his interview, but at this point in production that is probably a better approach than stuffing his answers into the movie as it already exists. Either way, this is a great addition to the film and justifies the wait to get it in there. I was honestly always more interested in the lesser know cast and crew members. We have heard Weller talk about RoboCop a lot, so I personally did not think it was essential.... however, to be a truly definitive RoboCop documentary it simply would not be complete without Weller. This would be be a fitting place for him to deliver his true last words on RoboCop.
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ChAnOoD DC-L4
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:35 am |
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I agree with you, Pimp. Plus, if they want to release it before we all die, and avoid more delays, I think having a bonus segment on Weller alone would be cool. Plus, as you say, editing could make it more appealing than seeing him sitting and giving some trivia. I hope weīll have the finished product this year, itīd be cool to finally add it to the RoboCollection.
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Spectrum Scarlet Sgt-L1*
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 7:59 pm |
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I could care less about what he has to say now. He's milked the franchise for all its worth. He added to the ridicule of it with the KFC ads and doesn't care about it. He should've given the "RoboDoc" guys the interview when they actually started, rather than holding back and them in turn.
I was quite happy to watch it without him. The archive recordings they had were enough. They were interesting, insightful and lent the project his presence. Made him seem more mysterious and folklore, in a way, "like a cowboy".
I've only wanted to hear about the sequels and TV series. The stories about the first are nothing new. More technical and superfluous than anything; let's see the good people who worked beyond that. They were and are as important as Weller. His arrogance has delayed release further. But with a major distributor onboard, the team will be feeling the pressure to deliver by Christmas. If they don't, they run the risk of losing out on the momentum of this announcement.
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Spectrum Scarlet Sgt-L1*
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:33 pm |
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Archive : | ...from the brief footage shown he seems to be in a great mood. No grumpy Weller. |
50k will do that.
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ChAnOoD DC-L4
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:58 am |
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Spectrum Scarlet : | I've only ever wanted to hear about the sequels and TV series. |
Sadly the TV stuff is quite ignored, with the exception of "The Series", so Iīm afraid little info will get on the animated stuff (PD is out the documentary on purpose).
Spectrum Scarlet : | With a major distributor onboard, they'll be feeling the pressure to deliver this by Christmas. |
I hope itīs true, itīs been a while since it was announced to be released in 2017
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RoboJOF Sgt-L4
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:15 pm |
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I think that the end Weller segment would be cool. I think he'd love getting to have his say on the topic one-on-one (even if its all been said before). It seems like he has warmed up to the idea of RoboCop stuff lately. As much as I like his work in RoboCop and in other movies, I get the impression that he values other things at this point in his life. Don't get me wrong, being known for as RoboCop in spite of all his acting roles must get annoying after a while. Imagine all the work you have done towards something and every time you go out there's some nerd like me asking him to say, "Dead or Alive, you're coming with me!" He was a serious artist and some of his other roles were gritty and interesting, but he only seems to get the nod for RoboCop from 90% of movie fans. Based on this assumption, it doesn't surprise me that he continued his education and became a PHD and got involved in another career based on something that he loved. It may have given him more purpose to do so than to go on the Convention circuit for the rest of his life talking about RoboCop. I have also heard other artists and voice actors (who are older) also react in this way when fans want to talk to them. It seems like they have a hard time understanding why we like this stuff as much as we do, or maybe even more than they did. For many of these actors, doing the voice of a cartoon character was a way to earn a living. The idea that it would lead to interviews, dvd special features and documentaries 30 to 40 years later, is not something that they probably expect.
Anyway, his contribution to the role, to science fiction genre movies, and to the world of character acting, is undeniable. Whether he has the desire to participate in documentaries is up to him, but as a fan, I appreciate what he, and all these actors, do for the fans. I love hearing them talk about RoboCop, and even if the stories don't change, I like getting that inside information from the people who were there. Bravo to the RoboDoc filmmakers and big thanks to all that participated.
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Spectrum Scarlet Sgt-L1*
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:20 am |
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ChAnOoD : | Sadly the TV stuff is quite ignored, with the exception of "The Series", so Iīm afraid little info will get on the animated stuff (PD is out the documentary on purpose). |
I know. It's "The Series" I'm referring to.
Didn't care for the animated run and "PD" came along some years later. I get why they left it out, focusing more on the popularity 'boom' of the character (in the early/mid 90's), but I too would've liked to have seen, at the very least, Julian Grant, the writers and the 4 other producers.
Unless they didn't want to be featured...?
Maybe too embarrassed by the end product?
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Spectrum Scarlet Sgt-L1*
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:40 am |
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RoboJOF : | Don't get me wrong, being known for as RoboCop in spite of all his acting roles must get annoying after a while. Imagine all the work you have done towards something and every time you go out there's some nerd like me asking him to say, "Dead or Alive, you're coming with me!" He was a serious artist and some of his other roles were gritty and interesting, but he only seems to get the nod for RoboCop from 90% of movie fans.
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Anyway, his contribution to the role, to science fiction genre movies, and to the world of character acting, is undeniable. Whether he has the desire to participate in documentaries is up to him, but as a fan, I appreciate what he, and all these actors, do for the fans. I love hearing them talk about RoboCop, and even if the stories don't change, I like getting that inside information from the people who were there. Bravo to the RoboDoc filmmakers and big thanks to all that participated. |
The problem with Weller is that, because of his style of acting and that eccentric, otherworldly voice of his, he kind of falls in-between the columns of method/character actors and stars, which is obvious he wanted to be; a 'gritty', grimy combination of both and thought of himself as such for a period of time. That, in a way, he was perhaps better than most star performers back then and had the personality traits, plus acumen, to prove it.
But with him coming from the New York acting community, which has always been predominantly theatre-based (Broadway, off-Broadway), his performances in the likes of "Shakedown", "Rainbow Drive" and "Fifty/Fifty" were either too broad and 'big' or too stiff and 'phoned-in'. He never could quite strike a balance between the two and that hindered him in not being recognised.
I'll be honest (it may insult the man if he ever reads this), but watching him in those films, I keep imagining Michael Douglas in those lead roles instead of him. Douglas had the charisma and wider appeal, which Weller, sadly, did not. Weller was damn near-perfect as RoboCop/Alex Murphy, but in other roles, I think even he struggled to break away from that part internally as an actor. He tried too hard to be a cool, suave detective, soldier and lawyer; and came of as more cocky, arrogant, which didn't suit him. It somehow resulted in dull performances. His work felt forced and too often lazy, which is why he'll always be remembered as "a robot".
At least with "RC", he could get away with being stiff, constrained and artificial. He was playing a quadriplegic with limbs that weren't his. He could imbue a certain amount of humanity and fluidity into the movements and facial expressions, but he was, at the end of the day, a robotic, mechanised figure; restricted by the limitations of such tech.
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