Joel Kinnaman talks - Why the Remake failed

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Guys, guys, we need to cut costs, any ideas?
We could get rid of Jackson.
No!
Oldman?
NO!
Keaton?
HELL NO!!!
How about the Robo suit?
We could scratch the cool 12 million dollar cgi suit and replace it with a scuba suit and slap $200 worth of styrofoam on it!
And instead of making it look like metal, we'll make it black and call it "tactical".
Brilliant!!!

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Guys, guys, we need to cut costs, any ideas?
We could get rid of Jackson.
No!
Oldman?
NO!
Keaton?
HELL NO!!!
How about the Robo suit?
We could scratch the cool 12 million dollar cgi suit and replace it with a scuba suit and slap $200 worth of styrofoam on it!
And instead of making it look like metal, we'll make it black and call it "tactical".
Brilliant!!!

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Guys, guys, we need to cut costs, any ideas?
We could get rid of Jackson.
No!
Oldman?
NO!
Keaton?
HELL NO!!!
How about the Robo suit?
We could scratch the cool 12 million dollar cgi suit and replace it with a scuba suit and slap $200 worth of styrofoam on it!
And instead of making it look like metal, we'll make it black and call it "tactical".
Brilliant!!!

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Guys, guys, we need to cut costs, any ideas?
We could get rid of Jackson.
No!
Oldman?
NO!
Keaton?
HELL NO!!!
How about the Robo suit?
We could scratch the cool 12 million dollar cgi suit and replace it with a scuba suit and slap $200 worth of styrofoam on it!
And instead of making it look like metal, we'll make it black and call it "tactical".
Brilliant!!!

[RoboLewis]

Wow! I just found out Michael K. Williams (Lewis) just died. 😢

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Wow! I just found out Michael K. Williams (Lewis) just died. 😢

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Wow! I just found out Michael K. Williams (Lewis) just died. 😢

[Mindchamber]

I just hope the next attempt goes a bit wackier.. not R3 wacky bit just..but just weird

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I just hope the next attempt goes a bit wackier.. not R3 wacky bit just..but just weird

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I just hope the next attempt goes a bit wackier.. not R3 wacky bit just..but just weird

[RoboWags]

There are a lot of elements that caused it to fail. I think the casting was wrong in some areas and the story differed too much from the original. It lacked much of what made the original great. Murphy interacts with his family after becoming RoboCop?! Part of what made the original great was that search for his humanity after becoming RoboCop. This one just lacked that emotional grapple that Murphy suffered from. The costume would not have been so bad had they kept the silver suit through the whole film. At least that one resembled the original. Lets not forget a lack of a worthwhile villain. Fallon was no Boddicker...
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There are a lot of elements that caused it to fail. I think the casting was wrong in some areas and the story differed too much from the original. It lacked much of what made the original great. Murphy interacts with his family after becoming RoboCop?! Part of what made the original great was that search for his humanity after becoming RoboCop. This one just lacked that emotional grapple that Murphy suffered from. The costume would not have been so bad had they kept the silver suit through the whole film. At least that one resembled the original. Lets not forget a lack of a worthwhile villain. Fallon was no Boddicker...
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There are a lot of elements that caused it to fail. I think the casting was wrong in some areas and the story differed too much from the original. It lacked much of what made the original great. Murphy interacts with his family after becoming RoboCop?! Part of what made the original great was that search for his humanity after becoming RoboCop. This one just lacked that emotional grapple that Murphy suffered from. The costume would not have been so bad had they kept the silver suit through the whole film. At least that one resembled the original. Lets not forget a lack of a worthwhile villain. Fallon was no Boddicker...
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There are a lot of elements that caused it to fail. I think the casting was wrong in some areas and the story differed too much from the original. It lacked much of what made the original great. Murphy interacts with his family after becoming RoboCop?! Part of what made the original great was that search for his humanity after becoming RoboCop. This one just lacked that emotional grapple that Murphy suffered from. The costume would not have been so bad had they kept the silver suit through the whole film. At least that one resembled the original. Lets not forget a lack of a worthwhile villain. Fallon was no Boddicker...
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I still love the movie, not as any improvement upon the original...it could never top it, but...I really enjoyed the "slow-burn" approach to telling the transition story from human to cyborg, what that might entail, and how it would affect someone personally and their family dynamic...I thoroughly enjoyed all of that stuff. They just really didn't take advantage of his prowess, his new abilities as a cyborg to fight crime quite as much as the original film did...they needed more scenes where we see just what RoboCop can actually do to criminals. The original portrayed him in some realistic scenarios but dealing with criminals in fantastical, clever ways, like blowing a rapist's balls off right through the dress of his potential victim. (lol) We didn't see alot of that in the reboot. Also, we didn't see any real villains with colorful, interesting personality, and Michael Keaton's character only really showed any hint of evil towards the end, further muddling that role. I don't know...there was just so much muddled in it, some great parts and really cool concepts, but not as concise and cohesive story-wise as the original. Having said all that, like I said, there was enough for me to still enjoy it as a really slick, if not neutered, attempt at a retelling...

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I still love the movie, not as any improvement upon the original...it could never top it, but...I really enjoyed the "slow-burn" approach to telling the transition story from human to cyborg, what that might entail, and how it would affect someone personally and their family dynamic...I thoroughly enjoyed all of that stuff. They just really didn't take advantage of his prowess, his new abilities as a cyborg to fight crime quite as much as the original film did...they needed more scenes where we see just what RoboCop can actually do to criminals. The original portrayed him in some realistic scenarios but dealing with criminals in fantastical, clever ways, like blowing a rapist's balls off right through the dress of his potential victim. (lol) We didn't see alot of that in the reboot. Also, we didn't see any real villains with colorful, interesting personality, and Michael Keaton's character only really showed any hint of evil towards the end, further muddling that role. I don't know...there was just so much muddled in it, some great parts and really cool concepts, but not as concise and cohesive story-wise as the original. Having said all that, like I said, there was enough for me to still enjoy it as a really slick, if not neutered, attempt at a retelling...

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I still love the movie, not as any improvement upon the original...it could never top it, but...I really enjoyed the "slow-burn" approach to telling the transition story from human to cyborg, what that might entail, and how it would affect someone personally and their family dynamic...I thoroughly enjoyed all of that stuff. They just really didn't take advantage of his prowess, his new abilities as a cyborg to fight crime quite as much as the original film did...they needed more scenes where we see just what RoboCop can actually do to criminals. The original portrayed him in some realistic scenarios but dealing with criminals in fantastical, clever ways, like blowing a rapist's balls off right through the dress of his potential victim. (lol) We didn't see alot of that in the reboot. Also, we didn't see any real villains with colorful, interesting personality, and Michael Keaton's character only really showed any hint of evil towards the end, further muddling that role. I don't know...there was just so much muddled in it, some great parts and really cool concepts, but not as concise and cohesive story-wise as the original. Having said all that, like I said, there was enough for me to still enjoy it as a really slick, if not neutered, attempt at a retelling...

[WeKilledYou]

The design and look of the suit was average for me. With what they went with, if everything else was good and fell in place, the costume wouldn’t really matter to much in my opinion. But yeah, it was fairly lame.

I have mixed opinions on R vs PG-13 rating. Both I think both can be acceptable, as long as there’s a really good script. Which in this case, there wasn’t.

But as Joel and Fummelcop touched on, I like different things about the movie. It’s not all terrible. For example, if it wasn’t called Robocop, and it was a knock off movie. I think people would be less critical of it. Once you enter remake territory, you’re stepping on hallowed ground. Everything you do is going to be compared to the original and over analyzed.

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The design and look of the suit was average for me. With what they went with, if everything else was good and fell in place, the costume wouldn’t really matter to much in my opinion. But yeah, it was fairly lame.

I have mixed opinions on R vs PG-13 rating. Both I think both can be acceptable, as long as there’s a really good script. Which in this case, there wasn’t.

But as Joel and Fummelcop touched on, I like different things about the movie. It’s not all terrible. For example, if it wasn’t called Robocop, and it was a knock off movie. I think people would be less critical of it. Once you enter remake territory, you’re stepping on hallowed ground. Everything you do is going to be compared to the original and over analyzed.

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The design and look of the suit was average for me. With what they went with, if everything else was good and fell in place, the costume wouldn’t really matter to much in my opinion. But yeah, it was fairly lame.

I have mixed opinions on R vs PG-13 rating. Both I think both can be acceptable, as long as there’s a really good script. Which in this case, there wasn’t.

But as Joel and Fummelcop touched on, I like different things about the movie. It’s not all terrible. For example, if it wasn’t called Robocop, and it was a knock off movie. I think people would be less critical of it. Once you enter remake territory, you’re stepping on hallowed ground. Everything you do is going to be compared to the original and over analyzed.

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The design and look of the suit was average for me. With what they went with, if everything else was good and fell in place, the costume wouldn’t really matter to much in my opinion. But yeah, it was fairly lame.

I have mixed opinions on R vs PG-13 rating. Both I think both can be acceptable, as long as there’s a really good script. Which in this case, there wasn’t.

But as Joel and Fummelcop touched on, I like different things about the movie. It’s not all terrible. For example, if it wasn’t called Robocop, and it was a knock off movie. I think people would be less critical of it. Once you enter remake territory, you’re stepping on hallowed ground. Everything you do is going to be compared to the original and over analyzed.