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j.p.keleman R-L1
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:11 am |
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I think that Robocop's face was Murphy's real face. In fact I will go as far to say a lot of his skull remained.
I think that the eyes are his as well. In the intro of the classic Robocop 1 movie we last see Murphy's eyes when he passes away; next time he is represented as human is in the battle with ED-209. What I mean is that the cracked visor shows a human eye that looks up to the camera and shows emotion; at this point we know he is human like us.
The way he could see night vision, infrared, and zoom in could be an advanced electronics system that can interpret all data presented to the human eye better then we can.
Robocop's rear of his jaw is probably artificial like in the schematics but some of Murphy's jaw could be fused in the metal component to add a real look to his face and why bother with a complicated artificial jaw that would probably not look right?
Now the famous question of bullets hitting his face! I have explained it to myself in a interesting fashion. The area around Murphy's mouth in particular and perhaps some what his whole skull is encased with some sort of slight electromagnetic field that can deflect projectiles. I mean the area around his mouth is so small that a energy could be concentrated. Perhaps it can even cause a slight change in near by air pressure and charge that could help slow the heat waves from fires to burn his face; convection and radiation, yet in any event I thought the fires were nowhere near as dangerous to really burn him.
The fact his face is cold does not mean it is a plastic piece. I know that there are days were we all feel cold and I am sure OCP wanted a hardy cyborg that could keep its flesh at a cool energy conserving and flesh preserving temperature. Find out what is the lowest temperature skin can survive at and I am sure that is what temperature Murphy's wife noticed. I mean Robocop has organics but they are dead and probably due to that fact they have some new rule changes. I would also like to comment on the quote that, "They made this to honor him," was referring to yeah the Robocop program itself but the obvious face and flesh of Murphy was used and paraded around on a symbol of law and justice.
There is a lot of human in Robocop why else would we all care so much about the movie?
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Joined: 17 Nov 2001
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 am |
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I recommend anyone who hasn't seen the new DVD documentaries to watch this little clip. It deals with the whole Murphy's face thing and explains some questions and clears some confusion about it.
The face part is at about 5:10 in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpe13EPBjI
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Law Giver Law Master of Aquilonia
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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Comment: Boob Snortin' and Dicky Boy
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:38 pm |
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Yeah cool Archive. I liked all their conflict and discrepancy with the hours of getting Weller into the suit, was funny.
The Murphy face being transplanted I think we all knew. One thing which wouldve been nice if they showed the skull or maybe if it was a endoskeleton like set up underneath. Because the flesh alone would not retain the structure and integrity of Murphy without something underneath.
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RoboDemise What's all this then?
Joined: 30 Jun 2009
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Comment: I come from hell
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:47 pm |
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So that would mean that they took his skull and made a mold of it and then made a new facial structure to make the skin, or his face, look like it did. Or I guess they could have 3D scanned the skull facial structure and made it that way somehow..... Pretty interesting indeed!
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Deus Ex Robo 6655321
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Comment: Is my new life a reward for the one I led?
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:39 am |
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You still haven't gotten that 20th anniversary DVD yet have you? _________________ All of humanity is of my creation. They are all the ways I could have lived my life, but didn't. All the possibilities I missed. The reason for their existence is to give contrast to my ego.
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RoboDemise What's all this then?
Joined: 30 Jun 2009
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Comment: I come from hell
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:01 am |
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Fuck no I haven't. Sucks, but I will. It's not a question of if, but when.
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OneTimePoster R-L1
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:44 am |
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Yeah, i've never posted here before, and i honestly doubt i'll return. I never really commit to any board... I notice the last post was last summer, so sorry if i resurected a dead topic.
But i just read all 12 or so pages of this conversation, and its very interesting. I think just about every post contributed nicely. I'll add for one that i believe murphy's only 'human parts' are his facial tissue (all of it), some of his brain, and possibly his spine (just because it sounds good)
I think the rest is plastic, metal, and wires.
Some of you believe that his left arm is still intact. If you re-watch the movie, the final word on the arm was 'lose the arm'.
Some of you also believe it to be impossible for his digestion system, heart, basicly his torso-contents to be synthetic. That leads me to the reason why i registered to make this post.
(drum roll?)
During the first third of the original robocop movie, during one of those commercial break segments, theres a commercial advertising synthetic plastic hearts for transplantion purposes ("kawasaki... you pick the heart!")
proving that withinn the cannon of the movie, such things are quite possible. I believe that may of been the sole purpose of the commercial. I think OCP was even mentioned withinn it.
An alternative (fantasy) thought i once had was based on a concept unused in the original Terminator movie. In the first draft, the terminator had to eat to maintain its organic tissue. It had rat-sized organs located in its jaw/chin area. And since i brought the terminator into the conversation, i do think the t-800 (in T1 and T2) had a superior build and design.
Just thought i'd add that, though i think the youtube link tpretty much said it all.
Thanks for the great read guys. Heres to hoping Robocop 4 doesnt turn out to be CG, but if it does, atleast they may be able to secure Peter Weller for the voice-over work. :)
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Deus Ex Robo 6655321
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Comment: Is my new life a reward for the one I led?
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:13 am |
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Um okay..................lets hear it for the new guy! _________________ All of humanity is of my creation. They are all the ways I could have lived my life, but didn't. All the possibilities I missed. The reason for their existence is to give contrast to my ego.
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Stan The Man Bah Concepts Division
Joined: 05 Jun 2003
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Comment: I'm the guy in Old Archive.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:58 pm |
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Not bad for only the one post. _________________ I don't wanna pay that, PhotoBucket. Now maybe you haven't heard, but I'm the guy in old Archive. So hows about you just shit snow for a year and I'll figure out something else. Sayonara!
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OneTimePoster R-L1
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:12 am |
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lol thank you, thank you.
i've prolly over the past 5 years or so used this site as reference for robocop information but i never even noticed there was a message board section...
anyway, cheers guys.
again, sorry for bringing an old thread to the top. i'll cease and desist.
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LuanaTF RoboMommy
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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Comment: Always around robots, real and fictional
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:27 am |
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Oh it's okay about the bringing up old threads I think ^^ I do it all the time!
Also, good to see your 2nd post on the board
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Deus Ex Robo 6655321
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Comment: Is my new life a reward for the one I led?
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:55 pm |
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OneTimePoster : | lol thank you, thank you.
i've prolly over the past 5 years or so used this site as reference for robocop information but i never even noticed there was a message board section...
anyway, cheers guys.
again, sorry for bringing an old thread to the top. i'll cease and desist. |
Aw shit, well now you ruined it. The whole mystique of your screen name blown.
+2 posts? Fuckin sellout. _________________ All of humanity is of my creation. They are all the ways I could have lived my life, but didn't. All the possibilities I missed. The reason for their existence is to give contrast to my ego.
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OneTimePoster R-L1
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:09 am |
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HaHa i guess the helmets off the cyborg now, eh...
anyway, since this is my third day checking back on this thread, perhaps i will hang out and check out the other ones. Must say, this board is more active than i assumed it would be...
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Law Giver Law Master of Aquilonia
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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Comment: Boob Snortin' and Dicky Boy
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:45 pm |
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One thing I never understood, if they agreed on TOTAL body prosthesis, why keep the face? Maybe ol Bob snorted some funky shit and didnt consider the face to be part've the body when he was on his withdrawal rant over the arm issue.
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