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LuanaTF
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It was tough to see a main character like Lewis die, but I think they didn't want to do that to her at first: I read somewhere that the actress wouldn't want to take the role of Ann Lewis again if the character wasn't to die in the first half of the movie, so I guess they had no choice.
And I'm not sure for the others, but I've lived pretty much on the 3rd movie as the ONLY Robocop movie I could watch for many years, so it's become part of me now  Can't let it go.
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Stan The Man
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| Officer Igor Antunes : | | Can you guys accept the death of Lewis? |
Not because she, for practically the first time in the movies, didn't wear her armor, no. :roll:
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Officer Igor Antunes
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| LuanaTF : | | I read somewhere that the actress wouldn't want to take the role of Ann Lewis again if the character wasn't to die in the first half of the movie, so I guess they had no choice. |
I read something about it too, but it's still strange and not professional (i don't kwow who to blame, Nancy Allen or Orion).
And as Stan said - oh yeah sure, if you're a experient, tough female, hot shot cop in Old Detroit, its obvious that you wont use your body armor off duty (irony) - afterall you're cruising in a police car with the trouble-maker RoboCop ON DUTY. (lame!)
And sure, you will expose your experient cop figure without cover to fight against a bunch of blood-seeker commandos. Come-on give me a break!
Anyways, sometimes i think the movie was made for us to buy some action figures. It worked. I was 13 when the movie was released in Brazil, and i just loved it. I had a good time, watching Robo flying with his cruiser from the rooftop, or hot pursuing MacDagget and shooting from the inside (not placing a damn single shot on his target despite his unbeatble technology).
And bought a number of 10-15 action figures as soon they imported it in Brazil (counting RoboCop3 and Robo Series toys). I was a happy kid with them.
But as a grown man, i can realize how commercial, non-sense the movie was. Now i can see how special Verhoeven work was, and as an artist myself, i try imagine how the trilogy would be, if the original writers and team had a chance to continue.
Sometimes i think the storyline from "RoboCop - The Future of Law Enforcement" (pilot episode from The Series) is a better and honest plot to continue Verhoeven original work. Thats why the original writers (Michael Miner and Edward Neumeier) had some participation on it.
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It's been a lot of speculation and rumors about that, but Nancy Allen herself denied it in a fan interview. (posted on the board some years ago..)
| Quote: | QUESTION: About the death of your character Anne Lewis, we would like to know if that fact was established in the script from the beginning, or if it was a request?
NANCY ALLEN: It was in the script, I would have never requested it. |
I still believe that she wanted a smaller part, but she probably didn't want to actually get killed. The whole ending, as nauseating as it is with the kid, robo and Dr Lazarus holding hands, would have fit better with Lewis.
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LuanaTF
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Thanks for letting us know, Archive.
Yeah, like that, it really sucks.  I wonder if it was to spotlight new characters over the old ones, or to give more space to Dr. Lazarus' actress..
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Nika Silwerra
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Comment: The queen of RoboCop random finds thread
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| Quote: | | Can you guys accept the death of Lewis? |
As for me ? Never ! (Maybe now I will be rude ) Well maybe in other story .But not in the R3 .. The right Robocop from the first two scripts would kill the McDegget immediatelly after killing of Lewis ! Of course he has the directive .. but anyway ! Thats was a dull 
After murder of Lewis I always had the feeling that the Lazarus takes the Lewis role a little bit and it was also the intention probably
But Lewis watched how they killed murphy .. then she helped Robocop remember who he really is .. " she reavealed the Robocop mysteri "
No one can replace Lewis ! 
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RoboDemise
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I personally think that the character Lewis had it coming. Fuck her. Should have happened at the beginning of the first movie when she attempted to rescue Murphy. Or at least avenge him. Oh that's right she didn't do that. I know... I know, wrong topic
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Stan The Man
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| Officer Igor Antunes : | | Sometimes i think the storyline from "RoboCop - The Future of Law Enforcement" (pilot episode from The Series) is a better and honest plot to continue Verhoeven original work. Thats why the original writers (Michael Miner and Edward Neumeier) had some participation on it. |
You know, I always had that thought ever since I watched the Series and read the Corporate Wars info (Corporate Wars being the original draft of Neumeier and Miner's RoboCop sequel).
You know, a few months ago, I had a mind to post a topic regarding Corporate Wars/The Future Of Law Enforcement and how it easily could have been the sequel that, uh, could have been.  I think you've inspired me to go for it now. 
(EDIT - I did post such a topic, which turned into a site article - read it here.)
Anyway, Lewis gettin' killed was just fail all-around. I remember hearing that she didn't care to be in the film without Weller, but like Archive said, she might not have necessarily wanted to be killed off. Bah either way. :roll:
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Deus Ex Robo
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| RoboDemise : | | I personally think that the character Lewis had it coming. Fuck her. Should have happened at the beginning of the first movie when she attempted to rescue Murphy. Or at least avenge him. Oh that's right she didn't do that. |
BA-ZING! 
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Nika Silwerra
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Comment: The queen of RoboCop random finds thread
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| Stan : | | Anyway, Lewis gettin' killed was just fail all-around. I remember hearing that she didn't care to be in the film without Weller, but like Archive said, she might not have necessarily wanted to be killed off. Bah either way. |
Well so she might be also wounded by the McDegget and to finish somewhere in hospital with hard injury .Or so . They did not need kill her in the script . Oh yeah but then the Robocop's revenge :roll: I really dont know .. the rest of the film after Lewis death was really weird !
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Law Giver
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I bought the trilogy pack in Walmart back in November for 10 bucks, and finally watched the 3rd one after a sorta long gap in viewing it. It is just a low budget movie and Robocop was severely cornied out. At some times it tries to be closer to R1, but fails because it is such a lousy film and lacks any interesting villains and grit. Its only grace is the Basil soundtrack but this is a no shit observation and fact.
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MurphysGal
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| LuanaTF : | It was tough to see a main character like Lewis die, but I think they didn't want to do that to her at first: I read somewhere that the actress wouldn't want to take the role of Ann Lewis again if the character wasn't to die in the first half of the movie, so I guess they had no choice.
And I'm not sure for the others, but I've lived pretty much on the 3rd movie as the ONLY Robocop movie I could watch for many years, so it's become part of me now Can't let it go. |
That's the exact opposite of me, I can watch the 1st and 2nd movies over and over and never get tired of them, but i can not stand the 3rd movie, it's to the point, i almost refuse to accept there is even a 3rd movie, and i will never ever buy it because i know it will be a waste of money cause i will never watch it., I thought it was that bad i couldn't even finish watching it the first time round. I hate the fact Lewis died and the scene itself just didn't feel right, it could have been done so much better. I also hate the way Burke talked in the film, not one bit of human emotion, it sounded all mechanical like Weller did in the first part of robo 1, what did burke not watch robo 1 and 2 and realise that slowly murphy was realising who he was and was becoming and sounding more human!! My thoughts is that Robo 3 was just a very poor attempt to cash in on a movie that was very successfull!!
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KidGoesWild
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| Officer Igor Antunes : | | Can you guys accept the death of Lewis? Sometimes i think it's better forget about the 3rd movie. This is why i think Robo trilogy must be redone. |
I dont recall ever being outraged by it. I mean, I cared for the character, obviously I didnt want her to die but recognized potential benefits for the story that could come out of it. Of course I can start a long ramble about how wrong it was done in R3, but Ill save it this time.
If I had to pick just one thing that really bothers me its that Lewis dies alone (she mentions that she only has a brother who doesnt even contact her) and scared.
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Nika Silwerra
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| KidGoesWild : | | If I had to pick just one thing that really bothers me its that Lewis dies alone (she mentions that she only has a brother who doesnt even contact her) and scared. |
Thats right .. but , ahh she had even Murphy/"Burke" ehm might to show more of emotions to his partner and friend and only woman by his side !.. Thats was really "dry" from him  But what I should wait from R3
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My impressions after watching Robocop 3
