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NukeLord
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During the scene in RoboCop 2 when the guy is holding the baby with a gun to it's head.
Before Murphy, says "Lewis, hang it up!"
Does the guy say "Drop it Lewis or she's dead!" ??
Question 1 - Is that what he says?
Question 2 - How does he know Lewis's name?
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KidGoesWild
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:00 am |
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| NukeLord : | During the scene in RoboCop 2 when the guy is holding the baby with a gun to it's head.
Before Murphy, says "Lewis, hang it up!"
Does the guy say "Drop it Lewis or she's dead!" ??
Question 1 - Is that what he says?
Question 2 - How does he know Lewis's name? |
Thug: "Drop it or the little shit's dead! I'll blow it's fucking head off man!"
Robo: "Lewis...hang it up"
Thug: "Now, no shit from either one of you. And don;t try to follow me"
Robo: "We won't"
Thug: "The baby's going with me"
Robo: "no"
Thug: "Ill kill it man. Ill do it! Ill fucking kill it!"
Robo: "we cant have that"
BLAM!
Boink!
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NukeLord
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:41 am |
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Okay I got the "Lewis, hang it up!" part wrong. That came after that dialogue.
But just checked it a few times, and it definitely sounds like "Drop it Lewis, she's dead!" Guess my ears ain't as "good as money can buy!". 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:30 am |
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| KidGoesWild : | BLAM!
Boink! |
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KidGoesWild
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:46 am |
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I think I was wrong with my assumption after all. Im starting to notice more and more elements from R2 in R3: The updated OCP logo, police helmets, OCP Communications.
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Officer Harvey
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As far as the Old Man is concerned, I'm thinking he just simply died honestly. it's made pretty clear at the end of R2 that the entire RoboCain incident was placed solely on the crazy chick running the program and I seriously doubt the Old Man got any legal backlash, Johnson would've made sure of that 
Now, they alluded to in 3 that because OCP had suffered so many lawsuits resulting from that, paying them led to them being virtual bankrupt and up for purchase. Knowing the Old Man, I don't think he could live with his company suffering that fate and I think it killed him, like he lost the will to live. For the Old Man, I believe seeing OCP being downgraded was worse than jail.
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KidGoesWild
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| Officer Harvey : | As far as the Old Man is concerned, I'm thinking he just simply died honestly. it's made pretty clear at the end of R2 that the entire RoboCain incident was placed solely on the crazy chick running the program and I seriously doubt the Old Man got any legal backlash, Johnson would've made sure of that
Now, they alluded to in 3 that because OCP had suffered so many lawsuits resulting from that, paying them led to them being virtual bankrupt and up for purchase. Knowing the Old Man, I don't think he could live with his company suffering that fate and I think it killed him, like he lost the will to live. For the Old Man, I believe seeing OCP being downgraded was worse than jail. |
I really dont think the Old Man cared about the company. he represented what Jones and Bodicker represented in the first movie - a lust for POWER. Thats pretty much it. All he cared and wanted was power
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Officer Harvey
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| KidGoesWild : | | Officer Harvey : | As far as the Old Man is concerned, I'm thinking he just simply died honestly. it's made pretty clear at the end of R2 that the entire RoboCain incident was placed solely on the crazy chick running the program and I seriously doubt the Old Man got any legal backlash, Johnson would've made sure of that
Now, they alluded to in 3 that because OCP had suffered so many lawsuits resulting from that, paying them led to them being virtual bankrupt and up for purchase. Knowing the Old Man, I don't think he could live with his company suffering that fate and I think it killed him, like he lost the will to live. For the Old Man, I believe seeing OCP being downgraded was worse than jail. |
I really dont think the Old Man cared about the company. he represented what Jones and Bodicker represented in the first movie - a lust for POWER. Thats pretty much it. All he cared and wanted was power |
And for the Old Man, power was OCP, it was his company. OCP falling is the equivalent of The Old Man falling. Powerful guys like that would rather die than to see that happening to their creation, watching the profits drop etc. I was just saying the Old Man propably gave up living when that was starting to go down and didn't want to be around when it went down in the dirt.
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KidGoesWild
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| Officer Harvey : | | KidGoesWild : | | Officer Harvey : | As far as the Old Man is concerned, I'm thinking he just simply died honestly. it's made pretty clear at the end of R2 that the entire RoboCain incident was placed solely on the crazy chick running the program and I seriously doubt the Old Man got any legal backlash, Johnson would've made sure of that
Now, they alluded to in 3 that because OCP had suffered so many lawsuits resulting from that, paying them led to them being virtual bankrupt and up for purchase. Knowing the Old Man, I don't think he could live with his company suffering that fate and I think it killed him, like he lost the will to live. For the Old Man, I believe seeing OCP being downgraded was worse than jail. |
I really dont think the Old Man cared about the company. he represented what Jones and Bodicker represented in the first movie - a lust for POWER. Thats pretty much it. All he cared and wanted was power |
And for the Old Man, power was OCP, it was his company. OCP falling is the equivalent of The Old Man falling. Powerful guys like that would rather die than to see that happening to their creation, watching the profits drop etc. I was just saying the Old Man propably gave up living when that was starting to go down and didn't want to be around when it went down in the dirt. |
I have to disagree. I think just like Jones he didnt care for the company or its honor or name. He cared about HIS name and HIMSELF. OCP gave him the position of power but he didnt have any emotional attachment or love for the company
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Deus Ex Robo
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| KidGoesWild : | | I have to disagree. I think just like Jones he didnt care for the company or its honor or name. He cared about HIS name and HIMSELF. OCP gave him the position of power but he didnt have any emotional attachment or love for the company |
Yup. He was about profit and the fastest way to get it. OCP just being a means to an end. Yes it takes time and effort to get a successful corporation of the ground, but the most efficient way is to get products out quickly and play dirty with the rest of the world.
Hence projects like ED-209 and numerous RoboCop 2 failures. Throw something together, slap the OCP logo on it, and get it into the hands of customers as quickly as possible. If it fucks up, have the lawyers handle it. If it works, start working on another half-assed version that consumers find more shinny and attractive. More flash and awe rather than technological advancement. (cough cough iPod)
"Who cares if it works!"
The head of a major corporation isn't looking down on his company and going "Whoa, there's some shady shit going on in my Tax Statements. Somebody in accounting has been a bad boy!". No, he and his inner circle are the ones finding loopholes in government contracts and Democratic Propositions. Cutting every corner and screwing over whoever they need to, to make a profit.
Anyways, I'm getting ahead of myself here. Although OCP is the source of his power, I'd hardly believe he's attached to it in any sentimental way that a small family owned business operator must feel.
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Officer Harvey
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That's great, guys but I think my original post was explaining my PERSONAL VIEW of what happened to the Old Man by the time 3 came along. Although it's good that it got some response
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Deus Ex Robo
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Personal opinion is a character flaw.
U = MOAR RONG!!!!!1!!!
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Stan The Man
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| Officer Harvey : | | That's great, guys but I think my original post was explaining my PERSONAL VIEW of what happened ... |
Well, glad we have that cleared up. 
Anyway, I agree with KGW and Deus, they pretty much said it.
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Officer Harvey
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R3 didn't ignore or disregard 2, they just quietly tread past it so they could keep the kids away and focus on solely that movie in particular. If you watched 2 you're jsut supposed to assume it's in the past and it happened and that was that. They couldn't even properly explain the absence of the Old Man. Did he get killed or did he simply be replaced?Or a combination of both? We'll never know.
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