Robocop machine gun hand

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In Robocop 3, Robocop is introduced using the machine gun hand attachment while on duty. He also uses it to take out one of the ninja robots at the end. This attachment makes him more dangerous with the use of rockets as well as a machine gun. While there are no ED 209s in this movie, it seems like an upgrade that rivals ED-209's arsenal. I don't think he uses the Auto-9 at all in this movie (if he does, I am having trouble remembering it). While the upgrade is a cool idea to revitalize the character and make him more destructive, I wonder why they did it. It can't be a less violent alternative to a handgun, but I know that there was a lot of attempts politically to control the use of hand guns on the streets in the U.S. I don't think that a machine gun is any less deadly than a handgun (in fact it should be more threatening), but I wonder if the world had just become so desensitized to the use of machine guns from movies and tv that the producers thought it would be a way to soften Robocop's character (this is just my speculation, even though it is counterintuitive because machine guns are more dangerous weapons). Maybe it was because machine guns are often blasting without the same deadly accuracy and they seem to be more of a staple of action movies of the time period.
I may be looking in to this moreso than is necessary, but it as a Robocop fan, I easily notice the shift away from his traditional weapons (Auto-9, hand spike weapon which also doubles as a computer terminal access device). Looking back at the first two movies, it does seem that when Robocop fired the semi-automatic Auto-9, the next scene was someone getting blasted (squibs with blood flying), whereas the machine gun fire didn't always seem to hit the target.

What are your thoughts on the Machine gun hand accessory? A modern accessory or a cheap way to beef up Robocop without contributing anything to the action of the film?

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In Robocop 3, Robocop is introduced using the machine gun hand attachment while on duty. He also uses it to take out one of the ninja robots at the end. This attachment makes him more dangerous with the use of rockets as well as a machine gun. While there are no ED 209s in this movie, it seems like an upgrade that rivals ED-209's arsenal. I don't think he uses the Auto-9 at all in this movie (if he does, I am having trouble remembering it). While the upgrade is a cool idea to revitalize the character and make him more destructive, I wonder why they did it. It can't be a less violent alternative to a handgun, but I know that there was a lot of attempts politically to control the use of hand guns on the streets in the U.S. I don't think that a machine gun is any less deadly than a handgun (in fact it should be more threatening), but I wonder if the world had just become so desensitized to the use of machine guns from movies and tv that the producers thought it would be a way to soften Robocop's character (this is just my speculation, even though it is counterintuitive because machine guns are more dangerous weapons). Maybe it was because machine guns are often blasting without the same deadly accuracy and they seem to be more of a staple of action movies of the time period.
I may be looking in to this moreso than is necessary, but it as a Robocop fan, I easily notice the shift away from his traditional weapons (Auto-9, hand spike weapon which also doubles as a computer terminal access device). Looking back at the first two movies, it does seem that when Robocop fired the semi-automatic Auto-9, the next scene was someone getting blasted (squibs with blood flying), whereas the machine gun fire didn't always seem to hit the target.

What are your thoughts on the Machine gun hand accessory? A modern accessory or a cheap way to beef up Robocop without contributing anything to the action of the film?

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In Robocop 3, Robocop is introduced using the machine gun hand attachment while on duty. He also uses it to take out one of the ninja robots at the end. This attachment makes him more dangerous with the use of rockets as well as a machine gun. While there are no ED 209s in this movie, it seems like an upgrade that rivals ED-209's arsenal. I don't think he uses the Auto-9 at all in this movie (if he does, I am having trouble remembering it). While the upgrade is a cool idea to revitalize the character and make him more destructive, I wonder why they did it. It can't be a less violent alternative to a handgun, but I know that there was a lot of attempts politically to control the use of hand guns on the streets in the U.S. I don't think that a machine gun is any less deadly than a handgun (in fact it should be more threatening), but I wonder if the world had just become so desensitized to the use of machine guns from movies and tv that the producers thought it would be a way to soften Robocop's character (this is just my speculation, even though it is counterintuitive because machine guns are more dangerous weapons). Maybe it was because machine guns are often blasting without the same deadly accuracy and they seem to be more of a staple of action movies of the time period.
I may be looking in to this moreso than is necessary, but it as a Robocop fan, I easily notice the shift away from his traditional weapons (Auto-9, hand spike weapon which also doubles as a computer terminal access device). Looking back at the first two movies, it does seem that when Robocop fired the semi-automatic Auto-9, the next scene was someone getting blasted (squibs with blood flying), whereas the machine gun fire didn't always seem to hit the target.

What are your thoughts on the Machine gun hand accessory? A modern accessory or a cheap way to beef up Robocop without contributing anything to the action of the film?

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In Robocop 3, Robocop is introduced using the machine gun hand attachment while on duty. He also uses it to take out one of the ninja robots at the end. This attachment makes him more dangerous with the use of rockets as well as a machine gun. While there are no ED 209s in this movie, it seems like an upgrade that rivals ED-209's arsenal. I don't think he uses the Auto-9 at all in this movie (if he does, I am having trouble remembering it). While the upgrade is a cool idea to revitalize the character and make him more destructive, I wonder why they did it. It can't be a less violent alternative to a handgun, but I know that there was a lot of attempts politically to control the use of hand guns on the streets in the U.S. I don't think that a machine gun is any less deadly than a handgun (in fact it should be more threatening), but I wonder if the world had just become so desensitized to the use of machine guns from movies and tv that the producers thought it would be a way to soften Robocop's character (this is just my speculation, even though it is counterintuitive because machine guns are more dangerous weapons). Maybe it was because machine guns are often blasting without the same deadly accuracy and they seem to be more of a staple of action movies of the time period.
I may be looking in to this moreso than is necessary, but it as a Robocop fan, I easily notice the shift away from his traditional weapons (Auto-9, hand spike weapon which also doubles as a computer terminal access device). Looking back at the first two movies, it does seem that when Robocop fired the semi-automatic Auto-9, the next scene was someone getting blasted (squibs with blood flying), whereas the machine gun fire didn't always seem to hit the target.

What are your thoughts on the Machine gun hand accessory? A modern accessory or a cheap way to beef up Robocop without contributing anything to the action of the film?

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I'm somewhat of a fan of the gun-arm, at least in terms of design.

They did address RoboCop getting an expanded budget which brought about the new lab, gun-arm and jet-pack. You could think of it as OCP compensating for the fact that there won't be repeating their mistake with RoboCain and just wanting to broaden Murphy's capabilities. Maybe even equipping him for non-urban settings like in the Marvel comic series where he's sent to war.

It could be taken as a merchandising scheme even in the movie universe, as we can see the Robo and ED-209 figures in Nikko's room (and there's also Johnny Rehab commercial), which shows us that OCP does indeed cater it's properties to kids as well.

To be frank, it is kind of sucky, that the Auto-9 takes a back seat to the gun-arm in the movie. The gun-arm is clearly not as convenient, as Murphy would need to either carry it around or go one-handed, but I think it looks good as part of his look. The jet-pack definitely looks much more out-of-place to me.
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I'm somewhat of a fan of the gun-arm, at least in terms of design.

They did address RoboCop getting an expanded budget which brought about the new lab, gun-arm and jet-pack. You could think of it as OCP compensating for the fact that there won't be repeating their mistake with RoboCain and just wanting to broaden Murphy's capabilities. Maybe even equipping him for non-urban settings like in the Marvel comic series where he's sent to war.

It could be taken as a merchandising scheme even in the movie universe, as we can see the Robo and ED-209 figures in Nikko's room (and there's also Johnny Rehab commercial), which shows us that OCP does indeed cater it's properties to kids as well.

To be frank, it is kind of sucky, that the Auto-9 takes a back seat to the gun-arm in the movie. The gun-arm is clearly not as convenient, as Murphy would need to either carry it around or go one-handed, but I think it looks good as part of his look. The jet-pack definitely looks much more out-of-place to me.
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I'm somewhat of a fan of the gun-arm, at least in terms of design.

They did address RoboCop getting an expanded budget which brought about the new lab, gun-arm and jet-pack. You could think of it as OCP compensating for the fact that there won't be repeating their mistake with RoboCain and just wanting to broaden Murphy's capabilities. Maybe even equipping him for non-urban settings like in the Marvel comic series where he's sent to war.

It could be taken as a merchandising scheme even in the movie universe, as we can see the Robo and ED-209 figures in Nikko's room (and there's also Johnny Rehab commercial), which shows us that OCP does indeed cater it's properties to kids as well.

To be frank, it is kind of sucky, that the Auto-9 takes a back seat to the gun-arm in the movie. The gun-arm is clearly not as convenient, as Murphy would need to either carry it around or go one-handed, but I think it looks good as part of his look. The jet-pack definitely looks much more out-of-place to me.
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I'm somewhat of a fan of the gun-arm, at least in terms of design.

They did address RoboCop getting an expanded budget which brought about the new lab, gun-arm and jet-pack. You could think of it as OCP compensating for the fact that there won't be repeating their mistake with RoboCain and just wanting to broaden Murphy's capabilities. Maybe even equipping him for non-urban settings like in the Marvel comic series where he's sent to war.

It could be taken as a merchandising scheme even in the movie universe, as we can see the Robo and ED-209 figures in Nikko's room (and there's also Johnny Rehab commercial), which shows us that OCP does indeed cater it's properties to kids as well.

To be frank, it is kind of sucky, that the Auto-9 takes a back seat to the gun-arm in the movie. The gun-arm is clearly not as convenient, as Murphy would need to either carry it around or go one-handed, but I think it looks good as part of his look. The jet-pack definitely looks much more out-of-place to me.
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Thanks for writing! I probably should have given Robocop 3 a watch before writing that post. I would have remembered some of the Auto-9 scenes.
Selling merchandise is usually the reason that characters get upgrades or other useless changes to the formula (Who remembers Battle-Damaged He-Man? Yeah, I had him too.). I liked artu's comment about how he is now overpowered. I hadn't thought of that. He was already virtually invincible to human attack, now he is like a walking arsenal that can also fly (DAMN JETPACK!). I really dislike the Jet pack and Robocop 3's dependence on it to achieve victory in the movie. Coupled with the gunarm, it seems as though Robocop wouldn't have been able to thwart the enemy had it not been for all the accessories. I am with Stan and Chanood, I like the gunslinger metaphor in a lot of police officer movies and I get the impression that the filmmakers (who would have had a lot more exposure to westerns in their time) probably did too. I think that the Cobra Gun was a nice touch in the first movie, Instead of Robocop being an invincible machine with dozens of weapons, borrowing the Cobra Gun to take out the ED-209 quickly was something that a human cop might do. To me, it preserved the notion of Murphy's human character in a mechanical body.
As for the gunarm as a part of Robocop's body, I agree that it is way too much firepower and unrealistic (it might as well have a friggin laser and bazooka built into it). It can seemingly do anything. It also needs to be attached and removed (along with Robo's hand) which to me is a disadvantage. Artu points out that it needs to be brought along somehow, even though Robo shows no sign of a gunarm carrying case or fanny pack. It would be a neat way to redefine the character, if it weren't for the fact that the real reason is probably to sell more Robocop toys. "And remember, we care."

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Thanks for writing! I probably should have given Robocop 3 a watch before writing that post. I would have remembered some of the Auto-9 scenes.
Selling merchandise is usually the reason that characters get upgrades or other useless changes to the formula (Who remembers Battle-Damaged He-Man? Yeah, I had him too.). I liked artu's comment about how he is now overpowered. I hadn't thought of that. He was already virtually invincible to human attack, now he is like a walking arsenal that can also fly (DAMN JETPACK!). I really dislike the Jet pack and Robocop 3's dependence on it to achieve victory in the movie. Coupled with the gunarm, it seems as though Robocop wouldn't have been able to thwart the enemy had it not been for all the accessories. I am with Stan and Chanood, I like the gunslinger metaphor in a lot of police officer movies and I get the impression that the filmmakers (who would have had a lot more exposure to westerns in their time) probably did too. I think that the Cobra Gun was a nice touch in the first movie, Instead of Robocop being an invincible machine with dozens of weapons, borrowing the Cobra Gun to take out the ED-209 quickly was something that a human cop might do. To me, it preserved the notion of Murphy's human character in a mechanical body.
As for the gunarm as a part of Robocop's body, I agree that it is way too much firepower and unrealistic (it might as well have a friggin laser and bazooka built into it). It can seemingly do anything. It also needs to be attached and removed (along with Robo's hand) which to me is a disadvantage. Artu points out that it needs to be brought along somehow, even though Robo shows no sign of a gunarm carrying case or fanny pack. It would be a neat way to redefine the character, if it weren't for the fact that the real reason is probably to sell more Robocop toys. "And remember, we care."

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Thanks for writing! I probably should have given Robocop 3 a watch before writing that post. I would have remembered some of the Auto-9 scenes.
Selling merchandise is usually the reason that characters get upgrades or other useless changes to the formula (Who remembers Battle-Damaged He-Man? Yeah, I had him too.). I liked artu's comment about how he is now overpowered. I hadn't thought of that. He was already virtually invincible to human attack, now he is like a walking arsenal that can also fly (DAMN JETPACK!). I really dislike the Jet pack and Robocop 3's dependence on it to achieve victory in the movie. Coupled with the gunarm, it seems as though Robocop wouldn't have been able to thwart the enemy had it not been for all the accessories. I am with Stan and Chanood, I like the gunslinger metaphor in a lot of police officer movies and I get the impression that the filmmakers (who would have had a lot more exposure to westerns in their time) probably did too. I think that the Cobra Gun was a nice touch in the first movie, Instead of Robocop being an invincible machine with dozens of weapons, borrowing the Cobra Gun to take out the ED-209 quickly was something that a human cop might do. To me, it preserved the notion of Murphy's human character in a mechanical body.
As for the gunarm as a part of Robocop's body, I agree that it is way too much firepower and unrealistic (it might as well have a friggin laser and bazooka built into it). It can seemingly do anything. It also needs to be attached and removed (along with Robo's hand) which to me is a disadvantage. Artu points out that it needs to be brought along somehow, even though Robo shows no sign of a gunarm carrying case or fanny pack. It would be a neat way to redefine the character, if it weren't for the fact that the real reason is probably to sell more Robocop toys. "And remember, we care."

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Thanks for writing! I probably should have given Robocop 3 a watch before writing that post. I would have remembered some of the Auto-9 scenes.
Selling merchandise is usually the reason that characters get upgrades or other useless changes to the formula (Who remembers Battle-Damaged He-Man? Yeah, I had him too.). I liked artu's comment about how he is now overpowered. I hadn't thought of that. He was already virtually invincible to human attack, now he is like a walking arsenal that can also fly (DAMN JETPACK!). I really dislike the Jet pack and Robocop 3's dependence on it to achieve victory in the movie. Coupled with the gunarm, it seems as though Robocop wouldn't have been able to thwart the enemy had it not been for all the accessories. I am with Stan and Chanood, I like the gunslinger metaphor in a lot of police officer movies and I get the impression that the filmmakers (who would have had a lot more exposure to westerns in their time) probably did too. I think that the Cobra Gun was a nice touch in the first movie, Instead of Robocop being an invincible machine with dozens of weapons, borrowing the Cobra Gun to take out the ED-209 quickly was something that a human cop might do. To me, it preserved the notion of Murphy's human character in a mechanical body.
As for the gunarm as a part of Robocop's body, I agree that it is way too much firepower and unrealistic (it might as well have a friggin laser and bazooka built into it). It can seemingly do anything. It also needs to be attached and removed (along with Robo's hand) which to me is a disadvantage. Artu points out that it needs to be brought along somehow, even though Robo shows no sign of a gunarm carrying case or fanny pack. It would be a neat way to redefine the character, if it weren't for the fact that the real reason is probably to sell more Robocop toys. "And remember, we care."

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I have never been a fan of any design that puts a weapon in the place of a hand. I always found it cheesy as hell. It may have worked in old arcade games like metroid or mega man, but as soon as you try to make something more complex like a movie, you basically end up with an amputee character with several limitations and awkward movements and poses.

Only Iron Man design managed to do it in a smart way because he actually can use his arms as fire weapons but he is not losing at any moment his hands and fingers.

That said, of course when I was a kid I was moderately excited about the gunarm and the jetpack, but never entirely sold. The was something about the elegant and iconic auto-9 that was never surpassed by any other gimmick they tried with Robo (comic, games, etc.) Although I have to admit I loved using the ED-209 arm as a gunarm in RvsT game.

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I have never been a fan of any design that puts a weapon in the place of a hand. I always found it cheesy as hell. It may have worked in old arcade games like metroid or mega man, but as soon as you try to make something more complex like a movie, you basically end up with an amputee character with several limitations and awkward movements and poses.

Only Iron Man design managed to do it in a smart way because he actually can use his arms as fire weapons but he is not losing at any moment his hands and fingers.

That said, of course when I was a kid I was moderately excited about the gunarm and the jetpack, but never entirely sold. The was something about the elegant and iconic auto-9 that was never surpassed by any other gimmick they tried with Robo (comic, games, etc.) Although I have to admit I loved using the ED-209 arm as a gunarm in RvsT game.

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I have never been a fan of any design that puts a weapon in the place of a hand. I always found it cheesy as hell. It may have worked in old arcade games like metroid or mega man, but as soon as you try to make something more complex like a movie, you basically end up with an amputee character with several limitations and awkward movements and poses.

Only Iron Man design managed to do it in a smart way because he actually can use his arms as fire weapons but he is not losing at any moment his hands and fingers.

That said, of course when I was a kid I was moderately excited about the gunarm and the jetpack, but never entirely sold. The was something about the elegant and iconic auto-9 that was never surpassed by any other gimmick they tried with Robo (comic, games, etc.) Although I have to admit I loved using the ED-209 arm as a gunarm in RvsT game.

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I have never been a fan of any design that puts a weapon in the place of a hand. I always found it cheesy as hell. It may have worked in old arcade games like metroid or mega man, but as soon as you try to make something more complex like a movie, you basically end up with an amputee character with several limitations and awkward movements and poses.

Only Iron Man design managed to do it in a smart way because he actually can use his arms as fire weapons but he is not losing at any moment his hands and fingers.

That said, of course when I was a kid I was moderately excited about the gunarm and the jetpack, but never entirely sold. The was something about the elegant and iconic auto-9 that was never surpassed by any other gimmick they tried with Robo (comic, games, etc.) Although I have to admit I loved using the ED-209 arm as a gunarm in RvsT game.

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I'm really split about the whole thing. I like the overall idea and design of it but, as been pointed out, the gunarm is essentially pointless for the kind of situations Robo finds him in on a daily basis. The flame-thrower in particular is clearly just there to be cool and is not practical or useful at all, and the grenade launcher? How many times does Robo really need to blow up a tank on a normal day?

For the opening splatter-punk scene Robo could just as well have used the Auto-9, and after that scene Robo somehow forgets he has the attachment and just uses the Auto-9 until the story demands that he uses the gunarm again.

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I'm really split about the whole thing. I like the overall idea and design of it but, as been pointed out, the gunarm is essentially pointless for the kind of situations Robo finds him in on a daily basis. The flame-thrower in particular is clearly just there to be cool and is not practical or useful at all, and the grenade launcher? How many times does Robo really need to blow up a tank on a normal day?

For the opening splatter-punk scene Robo could just as well have used the Auto-9, and after that scene Robo somehow forgets he has the attachment and just uses the Auto-9 until the story demands that he uses the gunarm again.

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I'm really split about the whole thing. I like the overall idea and design of it but, as been pointed out, the gunarm is essentially pointless for the kind of situations Robo finds him in on a daily basis. The flame-thrower in particular is clearly just there to be cool and is not practical or useful at all, and the grenade launcher? How many times does Robo really need to blow up a tank on a normal day?

For the opening splatter-punk scene Robo could just as well have used the Auto-9, and after that scene Robo somehow forgets he has the attachment and just uses the Auto-9 until the story demands that he uses the gunarm again.

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Gun arm you say?



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Gun arm you say?



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Gun arm you say?



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I love Chanood's comment about Robo rifling through the wreckage of his police cruiser looking for the gunarm attachment. I might have expected to see something like that when his brain was being toyed with by OCP in Robocop 2 (perhaps for comic relief). It might have actually worked at that point in the movie, but silly and Robocop movies just don't mix for me.

Its funny, if the gunarm was created for the Robo Reboot, it probably would have just transformed a la the Transformers movies and then there would have been no need for carrying it around. But hopefully Robocop movies won't go in this direction. I like Robo being a cyborg with limitations, not like Ironman or Optimus Prime, who can (in the modern movies) transform their body into what ever they need. I like that Robocop needs to use his intelligence and police expertise to still complete his missions. Too many trinkets makes him seem less special as a hero.

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I love Chanood's comment about Robo rifling through the wreckage of his police cruiser looking for the gunarm attachment. I might have expected to see something like that when his brain was being toyed with by OCP in Robocop 2 (perhaps for comic relief). It might have actually worked at that point in the movie, but silly and Robocop movies just don't mix for me.

Its funny, if the gunarm was created for the Robo Reboot, it probably would have just transformed a la the Transformers movies and then there would have been no need for carrying it around. But hopefully Robocop movies won't go in this direction. I like Robo being a cyborg with limitations, not like Ironman or Optimus Prime, who can (in the modern movies) transform their body into what ever they need. I like that Robocop needs to use his intelligence and police expertise to still complete his missions. Too many trinkets makes him seem less special as a hero.

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I love Chanood's comment about Robo rifling through the wreckage of his police cruiser looking for the gunarm attachment. I might have expected to see something like that when his brain was being toyed with by OCP in Robocop 2 (perhaps for comic relief). It might have actually worked at that point in the movie, but silly and Robocop movies just don't mix for me.

Its funny, if the gunarm was created for the Robo Reboot, it probably would have just transformed a la the Transformers movies and then there would have been no need for carrying it around. But hopefully Robocop movies won't go in this direction. I like Robo being a cyborg with limitations, not like Ironman or Optimus Prime, who can (in the modern movies) transform their body into what ever they need. I like that Robocop needs to use his intelligence and police expertise to still complete his missions. Too many trinkets makes him seem less special as a hero.

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I love Chanood's comment about Robo rifling through the wreckage of his police cruiser looking for the gunarm attachment. I might have expected to see something like that when his brain was being toyed with by OCP in Robocop 2 (perhaps for comic relief). It might have actually worked at that point in the movie, but silly and Robocop movies just don't mix for me.

Its funny, if the gunarm was created for the Robo Reboot, it probably would have just transformed a la the Transformers movies and then there would have been no need for carrying it around. But hopefully Robocop movies won't go in this direction. I like Robo being a cyborg with limitations, not like Ironman or Optimus Prime, who can (in the modern movies) transform their body into what ever they need. I like that Robocop needs to use his intelligence and police expertise to still complete his missions. Too many trinkets makes him seem less special as a hero.

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