New suit and set photos from RoboCop 2013

[artuditu]

I think we're a community small enough for the studios not to worry about us at all. It's true there is a Robo remake topic in lots on internet boards, and reactions haven't beed good so far, so it could make more sense to have a few people hired trying to spread some optimism accross all those boards (but criticizing the original movie is definitely NOT an intelligent strategy).

But same as Archive I'd say probably not, for one simple reason: it won't make a difference. A TRAILER is the only way to make an impact. Research in film industry have shown that around 80-90% of people go to watch a film because of an appealing trailer and/or word-of-mouth personal recommendation. Professional critiques have only a minority influence by the way.

So that's it, until we have a trailer and the film is released nothing we discuss now will make any difference about this movie succeeding or not.

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I think we're a community small enough for the studios not to worry about us at all. It's true there is a Robo remake topic in lots on internet boards, and reactions haven't beed good so far, so it could make more sense to have a few people hired trying to spread some optimism accross all those boards (but criticizing the original movie is definitely NOT an intelligent strategy).

But same as Archive I'd say probably not, for one simple reason: it won't make a difference. A TRAILER is the only way to make an impact. Research in film industry have shown that around 80-90% of people go to watch a film because of an appealing trailer and/or word-of-mouth personal recommendation. Professional critiques have only a minority influence by the way.

So that's it, until we have a trailer and the film is released nothing we discuss now will make any difference about this movie succeeding or not.

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I think we're a community small enough for the studios not to worry about us at all. It's true there is a Robo remake topic in lots on internet boards, and reactions haven't beed good so far, so it could make more sense to have a few people hired trying to spread some optimism accross all those boards (but criticizing the original movie is definitely NOT an intelligent strategy).

But same as Archive I'd say probably not, for one simple reason: it won't make a difference. A TRAILER is the only way to make an impact. Research in film industry have shown that around 80-90% of people go to watch a film because of an appealing trailer and/or word-of-mouth personal recommendation. Professional critiques have only a minority influence by the way.

So that's it, until we have a trailer and the film is released nothing we discuss now will make any difference about this movie succeeding or not.

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I think we're a community small enough for the studios not to worry about us at all. It's true there is a Robo remake topic in lots on internet boards, and reactions haven't beed good so far, so it could make more sense to have a few people hired trying to spread some optimism accross all those boards (but criticizing the original movie is definitely NOT an intelligent strategy).

But same as Archive I'd say probably not, for one simple reason: it won't make a difference. A TRAILER is the only way to make an impact. Research in film industry have shown that around 80-90% of people go to watch a film because of an appealing trailer and/or word-of-mouth personal recommendation. Professional critiques have only a minority influence by the way.

So that's it, until we have a trailer and the film is released nothing we discuss now will make any difference about this movie succeeding or not.

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[Raymond]

I'm just saying that just like "fans" of this new deal gets accused for being anything from brazilians to haters of the old movie, the other side of the coin is some people here simply has so much fandom invested in the "classic" that they have unconditional hate for any changes.

I don't mind that. The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered. Just reading through the last couple of posts there's a lot of assumptions like "new Robocop is a ninja" or "it won't have heavy footsteps" "it wont be robotic" etc etc

How do you know?




But what I do welcome is constructive discussion.


Say the choice of replacing Ann Lewis with Jack Lewis.

Reason imo is that Murphy's wife has a much bigger role. She's strong and has to do a lot of legal fighting with Omnicorp. If you kept that bigger role there's gonna be some odd tension if you cast a hot partner for Murphy. I don't know if it had worked. Maybe, maybe not.

Also they add other strong female chars. One of the highest Omnicorp executives is also a woman now. The police chief is also a woman now. She seems to be sort of a mentor and cares a lot about Murphy so takes over a tiny bit of Ann's role in the original.

the new Jack Lewis is definitely more of a lose cannon than Ann was and is gonna screw up some but also get his hands dirty. But yes the dynamic of the relationship will be very different. They are long time partners and friends afaik this time around, while in the original Lewis and Murphy just met.

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I'm just saying that just like "fans" of this new deal gets accused for being anything from brazilians to haters of the old movie, the other side of the coin is some people here simply has so much fandom invested in the "classic" that they have unconditional hate for any changes.

I don't mind that. The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered. Just reading through the last couple of posts there's a lot of assumptions like "new Robocop is a ninja" or "it won't have heavy footsteps" "it wont be robotic" etc etc

How do you know?




But what I do welcome is constructive discussion.


Say the choice of replacing Ann Lewis with Jack Lewis.

Reason imo is that Murphy's wife has a much bigger role. She's strong and has to do a lot of legal fighting with Omnicorp. If you kept that bigger role there's gonna be some odd tension if you cast a hot partner for Murphy. I don't know if it had worked. Maybe, maybe not.

Also they add other strong female chars. One of the highest Omnicorp executives is also a woman now. The police chief is also a woman now. She seems to be sort of a mentor and cares a lot about Murphy so takes over a tiny bit of Ann's role in the original.

the new Jack Lewis is definitely more of a lose cannon than Ann was and is gonna screw up some but also get his hands dirty. But yes the dynamic of the relationship will be very different. They are long time partners and friends afaik this time around, while in the original Lewis and Murphy just met.

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I'm just saying that just like "fans" of this new deal gets accused for being anything from brazilians to haters of the old movie, the other side of the coin is some people here simply has so much fandom invested in the "classic" that they have unconditional hate for any changes.

I don't mind that. The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered. Just reading through the last couple of posts there's a lot of assumptions like "new Robocop is a ninja" or "it won't have heavy footsteps" "it wont be robotic" etc etc

How do you know?




But what I do welcome is constructive discussion.


Say the choice of replacing Ann Lewis with Jack Lewis.

Reason imo is that Murphy's wife has a much bigger role. She's strong and has to do a lot of legal fighting with Omnicorp. If you kept that bigger role there's gonna be some odd tension if you cast a hot partner for Murphy. I don't know if it had worked. Maybe, maybe not.

Also they add other strong female chars. One of the highest Omnicorp executives is also a woman now. The police chief is also a woman now. She seems to be sort of a mentor and cares a lot about Murphy so takes over a tiny bit of Ann's role in the original.

the new Jack Lewis is definitely more of a lose cannon than Ann was and is gonna screw up some but also get his hands dirty. But yes the dynamic of the relationship will be very different. They are long time partners and friends afaik this time around, while in the original Lewis and Murphy just met.

[Saasouza]

What pisses off remake haters is not the fact that WE LIKE the new suit. It's the fact that WE LIKE THE NEW SUIT AND THE 87 SUIT. They don't think it's possible.

And because of that they invent any possible excuse to justify the fandom behind it: trolling, patriotism, studio espionage and now Raymond was even called a douche...

That's sad.. Even though the 'remake pros' don't count for more than three members in this board we never appealed to name calling to make our points or draw attention.

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What pisses off remake haters is not the fact that WE LIKE the new suit. It's the fact that WE LIKE THE NEW SUIT AND THE 87 SUIT. They don't think it's possible.

And because of that they invent any possible excuse to justify the fandom behind it: trolling, patriotism, studio espionage and now Raymond was even called a douche...

That's sad.. Even though the 'remake pros' don't count for more than three members in this board we never appealed to name calling to make our points or draw attention.

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What pisses off remake haters is not the fact that WE LIKE the new suit. It's the fact that WE LIKE THE NEW SUIT AND THE 87 SUIT. They don't think it's possible.

And because of that they invent any possible excuse to justify the fandom behind it: trolling, patriotism, studio espionage and now Raymond was even called a douche...

That's sad.. Even though the 'remake pros' don't count for more than three members in this board we never appealed to name calling to make our points or draw attention.

[Josh]

I've stayed out of this thread because I figured it would descend into something like this.

I see both points I really do. Sure some of us could be a little more open minded when it comes to the reboot (I've always called it a reboot) but some will find it hard to when you are taking an iconic design that hasn't really been replicated and replacing it with something that really is not that original, no matter how you dress it up. I mean that little montage of pictures Archive made was perfect. You cannot dispute it's lack of originality when it's right in front of your very eyes. I've accepted the suit. No amount of bitching will change anything and while I could hope for more it could still be a lot worse like the concept art that we saw.

But on the flip side of the coin when it comes to the "blatant fanboyism" it works both ways. The few people who do like the direction the reboot is going in won't have a bad word to say about it. And for the record I enjoyed the fuck out of The Elite Squad and it's sequel. They were fast, well shot (sure not everyone likes the documentary style/shaky cam) and I enjoyed where they went with Nascimento. But you have to bear in mind that MGM are the ones who are more than likely making some of the more questionable decisions because they are a studio who want to cater to the crowd that will bring in the money. Look at the bigger blockbusters of today, all coat and no knickers as the saying goes. But blindly defending or even attacking the film is fruitless because it's the end result that counts. There is still time for Padilha to make a poor film (as well as a great one). Look at Verhoeven. He has made some brilliant films in his time but look at Showgirls. Sure I can beat one off over it but hell can I watch it as a serious film so it goes to show even some of the best people out there can make crap movies.

In short what I'm trying to say it that we are as bad as one another. Some of us shouldn't blindly attack the film based on what we have seen as the end result may well be brilliant. Equally saying that there is no harm in critisising some of the decisions which the majority of the internet agrees with (lazy suit, human hand, custom bike which in my opinion works. The RC-2000 is a product and any product has it's own line) and not just not blindly defending it because "Padilha has made two of the highest grossing Brazilian films" because that does not count for shit when it comes to this. Remember, MGM are involved and I doubt he has all the control he had on his previous movies.

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I've stayed out of this thread because I figured it would descend into something like this.

I see both points I really do. Sure some of us could be a little more open minded when it comes to the reboot (I've always called it a reboot) but some will find it hard to when you are taking an iconic design that hasn't really been replicated and replacing it with something that really is not that original, no matter how you dress it up. I mean that little montage of pictures Archive made was perfect. You cannot dispute it's lack of originality when it's right in front of your very eyes. I've accepted the suit. No amount of bitching will change anything and while I could hope for more it could still be a lot worse like the concept art that we saw.

But on the flip side of the coin when it comes to the "blatant fanboyism" it works both ways. The few people who do like the direction the reboot is going in won't have a bad word to say about it. And for the record I enjoyed the fuck out of The Elite Squad and it's sequel. They were fast, well shot (sure not everyone likes the documentary style/shaky cam) and I enjoyed where they went with Nascimento. But you have to bear in mind that MGM are the ones who are more than likely making some of the more questionable decisions because they are a studio who want to cater to the crowd that will bring in the money. Look at the bigger blockbusters of today, all coat and no knickers as the saying goes. But blindly defending or even attacking the film is fruitless because it's the end result that counts. There is still time for Padilha to make a poor film (as well as a great one). Look at Verhoeven. He has made some brilliant films in his time but look at Showgirls. Sure I can beat one off over it but hell can I watch it as a serious film so it goes to show even some of the best people out there can make crap movies.

In short what I'm trying to say it that we are as bad as one another. Some of us shouldn't blindly attack the film based on what we have seen as the end result may well be brilliant. Equally saying that there is no harm in critisising some of the decisions which the majority of the internet agrees with (lazy suit, human hand, custom bike which in my opinion works. The RC-2000 is a product and any product has it's own line) and not just not blindly defending it because "Padilha has made two of the highest grossing Brazilian films" because that does not count for shit when it comes to this. Remember, MGM are involved and I doubt he has all the control he had on his previous movies.

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I've stayed out of this thread because I figured it would descend into something like this.

I see both points I really do. Sure some of us could be a little more open minded when it comes to the reboot (I've always called it a reboot) but some will find it hard to when you are taking an iconic design that hasn't really been replicated and replacing it with something that really is not that original, no matter how you dress it up. I mean that little montage of pictures Archive made was perfect. You cannot dispute it's lack of originality when it's right in front of your very eyes. I've accepted the suit. No amount of bitching will change anything and while I could hope for more it could still be a lot worse like the concept art that we saw.

But on the flip side of the coin when it comes to the "blatant fanboyism" it works both ways. The few people who do like the direction the reboot is going in won't have a bad word to say about it. And for the record I enjoyed the fuck out of The Elite Squad and it's sequel. They were fast, well shot (sure not everyone likes the documentary style/shaky cam) and I enjoyed where they went with Nascimento. But you have to bear in mind that MGM are the ones who are more than likely making some of the more questionable decisions because they are a studio who want to cater to the crowd that will bring in the money. Look at the bigger blockbusters of today, all coat and no knickers as the saying goes. But blindly defending or even attacking the film is fruitless because it's the end result that counts. There is still time for Padilha to make a poor film (as well as a great one). Look at Verhoeven. He has made some brilliant films in his time but look at Showgirls. Sure I can beat one off over it but hell can I watch it as a serious film so it goes to show even some of the best people out there can make crap movies.

In short what I'm trying to say it that we are as bad as one another. Some of us shouldn't blindly attack the film based on what we have seen as the end result may well be brilliant. Equally saying that there is no harm in critisising some of the decisions which the majority of the internet agrees with (lazy suit, human hand, custom bike which in my opinion works. The RC-2000 is a product and any product has it's own line) and not just not blindly defending it because "Padilha has made two of the highest grossing Brazilian films" because that does not count for shit when it comes to this. Remember, MGM are involved and I doubt he has all the control he had on his previous movies.

[Officer Igor Antunes]

I've been around for so much time supporting Robo and this community, and just because i'm optimistic with the reboot i'm nothing more than a suspected person for some people here...

Come on! This is not supposed to be a breakout between old school and pro remake guys - because we are old school guys too. I think i'm fully capable of loving the new without unloving the old one. While i enjoy all of the buzz with the new Robo, i keep building my own RoboCop car, a 1990 Ford Taurus LX just to honor him.

For the patriotism - this is not World Cup finals! And i really don't appreciate soccer like many of our citizens do....

For the studio involvment - do you REALLY believe that MGM give us (from this board) a damn shit? To pay someone to spread optmistic words against the hate wave that we see around? This is called opinion, and everybody has one, even if you don't like, for Christ sake. If i got a chance to work with MGM i would be out there, working on the movie itself!

Trolling? Well this thread turned to a nonsense firefight serveral posts before, between pro and haters, and i'm very sad it will continue until something more official comes or the movie is released.

Enough of friendly fire!!!!!

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I've been around for so much time supporting Robo and this community, and just because i'm optimistic with the reboot i'm nothing more than a suspected person for some people here...

Come on! This is not supposed to be a breakout between old school and pro remake guys - because we are old school guys too. I think i'm fully capable of loving the new without unloving the old one. While i enjoy all of the buzz with the new Robo, i keep building my own RoboCop car, a 1990 Ford Taurus LX just to honor him.

For the patriotism - this is not World Cup finals! And i really don't appreciate soccer like many of our citizens do....

For the studio involvment - do you REALLY believe that MGM give us (from this board) a damn shit? To pay someone to spread optmistic words against the hate wave that we see around? This is called opinion, and everybody has one, even if you don't like, for Christ sake. If i got a chance to work with MGM i would be out there, working on the movie itself!

Trolling? Well this thread turned to a nonsense firefight serveral posts before, between pro and haters, and i'm very sad it will continue until something more official comes or the movie is released.

Enough of friendly fire!!!!!

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I've been around for so much time supporting Robo and this community, and just because i'm optimistic with the reboot i'm nothing more than a suspected person for some people here...

Come on! This is not supposed to be a breakout between old school and pro remake guys - because we are old school guys too. I think i'm fully capable of loving the new without unloving the old one. While i enjoy all of the buzz with the new Robo, i keep building my own RoboCop car, a 1990 Ford Taurus LX just to honor him.

For the patriotism - this is not World Cup finals! And i really don't appreciate soccer like many of our citizens do....

For the studio involvment - do you REALLY believe that MGM give us (from this board) a damn shit? To pay someone to spread optmistic words against the hate wave that we see around? This is called opinion, and everybody has one, even if you don't like, for Christ sake. If i got a chance to work with MGM i would be out there, working on the movie itself!

Trolling? Well this thread turned to a nonsense firefight serveral posts before, between pro and haters, and i'm very sad it will continue until something more official comes or the movie is released.

Enough of friendly fire!!!!!

[CrimeDoesNotPay]

1987 : Robocop / Iron Maiden - Guns And Roses - Metallica

2014 : Robocop / Justin Bieber

I rest my case.

Anyways they raped the storyline so much in the new "reboot-"remake"-"reimagining" that it's no longer Robocop, we all know that.
Had it been just the suit well fine, but we have the arm, the entire "concept" behind this robocop (he is more human, he can run, jump, dance), they changed the gender of Lewis...It's NOT Robocop.

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1987 : Robocop / Iron Maiden - Guns And Roses - Metallica

2014 : Robocop / Justin Bieber

I rest my case.

Anyways they raped the storyline so much in the new "reboot-"remake"-"reimagining" that it's no longer Robocop, we all know that.
Had it been just the suit well fine, but we have the arm, the entire "concept" behind this robocop (he is more human, he can run, jump, dance), they changed the gender of Lewis...It's NOT Robocop.

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1987 : Robocop / Iron Maiden - Guns And Roses - Metallica

2014 : Robocop / Justin Bieber

I rest my case.

Anyways they raped the storyline so much in the new "reboot-"remake"-"reimagining" that it's no longer Robocop, we all know that.
Had it been just the suit well fine, but we have the arm, the entire "concept" behind this robocop (he is more human, he can run, jump, dance), they changed the gender of Lewis...It's NOT Robocop.

[Zentron]

It's a perversion of the original concept! Very stereotypical, half-arse attempt, like the recent Total Recall movie. It'll be very well directed and well played, but if the movie itself is shite, it won't matter how good the acting is, or how well it is put together, it'll still be a shite movie!
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It's a perversion of the original concept! Very stereotypical, half-arse attempt, like the recent Total Recall movie. It'll be very well directed and well played, but if the movie itself is shite, it won't matter how good the acting is, or how well it is put together, it'll still be a shite movie!
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It's a perversion of the original concept! Very stereotypical, half-arse attempt, like the recent Total Recall movie. It'll be very well directed and well played, but if the movie itself is shite, it won't matter how good the acting is, or how well it is put together, it'll still be a shite movie!
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It's a perversion of the original concept! Very stereotypical, half-arse attempt, like the recent Total Recall movie. It'll be very well directed and well played, but if the movie itself is shite, it won't matter how good the acting is, or how well it is put together, it'll still be a shite movie!
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[Stan The Man]

I don't need this .. whatever the hell you wanna call it shoved down my throat. As for the original getting shoved down the pro-remake guys, well, that's sort of the point of this site. It's about the original. Been that way for about the last decade and a half. Sorry, that's how it is. Not my problem.

I'll be a fan of the remake if I want or not if that's what I want, just like I'll be a fan or not of the original. I won't hear about how we should just be fans of this 're-invention', or that we should 'stop living in the past'. How anyone thinks we should be more fans of something that ain't around or less fans of something we've loved a for a long time won't cut it. Opinions are one thing but even a hint of that kind of attitude is something I won't tolerate. And apparently I'm not the only one.

That said I have some hard opinions already, but I haven't given up on this thing. I won't say it's shit with any certainty. But I also won't say it'll be great with any certainty either. That's just plain arrogant. I ain't certain of dick. It should be pointed out that when it's said 'we don't know anything / How do you know' that applies to all of us - "The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered." - You don't think it's "odd" for us to hear constant praising and optimism about this thing before it's even around? The door swings both ways, as Josh rightly said. It can be as bad as some of us think it could be or worse. I truly hope that won't be the case, but I'm not gonna disallow for that possibility, just like I won't disallow for the possibility that it could actually be pretty good. Again, we know nothing, aside from what we've seen and heard, which I must also remind is not much at all in the whole scheme of things. Sure those of us who dislike it may be silly but at least we have a solid precedent to base our opinion on. To have so much praise and such powerful opinions for something that isn't even fully realized also seems kind of blind and inane to me. Doesn't necessarily make you less of a fan in my book though, especially if it's left at that.
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I don't need this .. whatever the hell you wanna call it shoved down my throat. As for the original getting shoved down the pro-remake guys, well, that's sort of the point of this site. It's about the original. Been that way for about the last decade and a half. Sorry, that's how it is. Not my problem.

I'll be a fan of the remake if I want or not if that's what I want, just like I'll be a fan or not of the original. I won't hear about how we should just be fans of this 're-invention', or that we should 'stop living in the past'. How anyone thinks we should be more fans of something that ain't around or less fans of something we've loved a for a long time won't cut it. Opinions are one thing but even a hint of that kind of attitude is something I won't tolerate. And apparently I'm not the only one.

That said I have some hard opinions already, but I haven't given up on this thing. I won't say it's shit with any certainty. But I also won't say it'll be great with any certainty either. That's just plain arrogant. I ain't certain of dick. It should be pointed out that when it's said 'we don't know anything / How do you know' that applies to all of us - "The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered." - You don't think it's "odd" for us to hear constant praising and optimism about this thing before it's even around? The door swings both ways, as Josh rightly said. It can be as bad as some of us think it could be or worse. I truly hope that won't be the case, but I'm not gonna disallow for that possibility, just like I won't disallow for the possibility that it could actually be pretty good. Again, we know nothing, aside from what we've seen and heard, which I must also remind is not much at all in the whole scheme of things. Sure those of us who dislike it may be silly but at least we have a solid precedent to base our opinion on. To have so much praise and such powerful opinions for something that isn't even fully realized also seems kind of blind and inane to me. Doesn't necessarily make you less of a fan in my book though, especially if it's left at that.
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I don't need this .. whatever the hell you wanna call it shoved down my throat. As for the original getting shoved down the pro-remake guys, well, that's sort of the point of this site. It's about the original. Been that way for about the last decade and a half. Sorry, that's how it is. Not my problem.

I'll be a fan of the remake if I want or not if that's what I want, just like I'll be a fan or not of the original. I won't hear about how we should just be fans of this 're-invention', or that we should 'stop living in the past'. How anyone thinks we should be more fans of something that ain't around or less fans of something we've loved a for a long time won't cut it. Opinions are one thing but even a hint of that kind of attitude is something I won't tolerate. And apparently I'm not the only one.

That said I have some hard opinions already, but I haven't given up on this thing. I won't say it's shit with any certainty. But I also won't say it'll be great with any certainty either. That's just plain arrogant. I ain't certain of dick. It should be pointed out that when it's said 'we don't know anything / How do you know' that applies to all of us - "The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered." - You don't think it's "odd" for us to hear constant praising and optimism about this thing before it's even around? The door swings both ways, as Josh rightly said. It can be as bad as some of us think it could be or worse. I truly hope that won't be the case, but I'm not gonna disallow for that possibility, just like I won't disallow for the possibility that it could actually be pretty good. Again, we know nothing, aside from what we've seen and heard, which I must also remind is not much at all in the whole scheme of things. Sure those of us who dislike it may be silly but at least we have a solid precedent to base our opinion on. To have so much praise and such powerful opinions for something that isn't even fully realized also seems kind of blind and inane to me. Doesn't necessarily make you less of a fan in my book though, especially if it's left at that.
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I don't need this .. whatever the hell you wanna call it shoved down my throat. As for the original getting shoved down the pro-remake guys, well, that's sort of the point of this site. It's about the original. Been that way for about the last decade and a half. Sorry, that's how it is. Not my problem.

I'll be a fan of the remake if I want or not if that's what I want, just like I'll be a fan or not of the original. I won't hear about how we should just be fans of this 're-invention', or that we should 'stop living in the past'. How anyone thinks we should be more fans of something that ain't around or less fans of something we've loved a for a long time won't cut it. Opinions are one thing but even a hint of that kind of attitude is something I won't tolerate. And apparently I'm not the only one.

That said I have some hard opinions already, but I haven't given up on this thing. I won't say it's shit with any certainty. But I also won't say it'll be great with any certainty either. That's just plain arrogant. I ain't certain of dick. It should be pointed out that when it's said 'we don't know anything / How do you know' that applies to all of us - "The odd part is the odd competition trying to discredit it before it's even premiered." - You don't think it's "odd" for us to hear constant praising and optimism about this thing before it's even around? The door swings both ways, as Josh rightly said. It can be as bad as some of us think it could be or worse. I truly hope that won't be the case, but I'm not gonna disallow for that possibility, just like I won't disallow for the possibility that it could actually be pretty good. Again, we know nothing, aside from what we've seen and heard, which I must also remind is not much at all in the whole scheme of things. Sure those of us who dislike it may be silly but at least we have a solid precedent to base our opinion on. To have so much praise and such powerful opinions for something that isn't even fully realized also seems kind of blind and inane to me. Doesn't necessarily make you less of a fan in my book though, especially if it's left at that.
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[vegasrobo]

There's been several statements made by the "New" Robo support base here that led to the direct question being asked about relation to the directors country of origin,Statements like He won the golden bear and look what he's accomplished and such indicated what the deal was,thats not an accusation but an observation by Archive and others it's obvious it's a weird "Viva Brazil" mentality taking over in several statement's,and that's alright..Be proud!,But as insulting language go's the prodding and choice of demeanor used in many statements seems to be solely intended at firing up older robo fans and createing a distinct division on the board,I'm known to have nothing but distain for whats known about the reboot remake retake reima-..well you get the picture I don't like it.."BUT" I would be lieing if I said I wasn't at least intriqued by whats going on with this mess of an idea I just think in general there should be a total respect for the original property here..Especially here on the archive,Long before this thing saw the light of day many of us here kept board interest going fan comics were attempted fan films were kinda made suit's were built and tales were told..Years before this 2014 Robocop..Honestly you don't think this board has been watched by MGM and members of this production?,,Don't be naïve.The youtube channel got wacked with a direct address to here,and again it's business NO ONE goe's into any business blind they've tested the waters here..I 'd put a beer on that anyday of the week.

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There's been several statements made by the "New" Robo support base here that led to the direct question being asked about relation to the directors country of origin,Statements like He won the golden bear and look what he's accomplished and such indicated what the deal was,thats not an accusation but an observation by Archive and others it's obvious it's a weird "Viva Brazil" mentality taking over in several statement's,and that's alright..Be proud!,But as insulting language go's the prodding and choice of demeanor used in many statements seems to be solely intended at firing up older robo fans and createing a distinct division on the board,I'm known to have nothing but distain for whats known about the reboot remake retake reima-..well you get the picture I don't like it.."BUT" I would be lieing if I said I wasn't at least intriqued by whats going on with this mess of an idea I just think in general there should be a total respect for the original property here..Especially here on the archive,Long before this thing saw the light of day many of us here kept board interest going fan comics were attempted fan films were kinda made suit's were built and tales were told..Years before this 2014 Robocop..Honestly you don't think this board has been watched by MGM and members of this production?,,Don't be naïve.The youtube channel got wacked with a direct address to here,and again it's business NO ONE goe's into any business blind they've tested the waters here..I 'd put a beer on that anyday of the week.

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There's been several statements made by the "New" Robo support base here that led to the direct question being asked about relation to the directors country of origin,Statements like He won the golden bear and look what he's accomplished and such indicated what the deal was,thats not an accusation but an observation by Archive and others it's obvious it's a weird "Viva Brazil" mentality taking over in several statement's,and that's alright..Be proud!,But as insulting language go's the prodding and choice of demeanor used in many statements seems to be solely intended at firing up older robo fans and createing a distinct division on the board,I'm known to have nothing but distain for whats known about the reboot remake retake reima-..well you get the picture I don't like it.."BUT" I would be lieing if I said I wasn't at least intriqued by whats going on with this mess of an idea I just think in general there should be a total respect for the original property here..Especially here on the archive,Long before this thing saw the light of day many of us here kept board interest going fan comics were attempted fan films were kinda made suit's were built and tales were told..Years before this 2014 Robocop..Honestly you don't think this board has been watched by MGM and members of this production?,,Don't be naïve.The youtube channel got wacked with a direct address to here,and again it's business NO ONE goe's into any business blind they've tested the waters here..I 'd put a beer on that anyday of the week.

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There's been several statements made by the "New" Robo support base here that led to the direct question being asked about relation to the directors country of origin,Statements like He won the golden bear and look what he's accomplished and such indicated what the deal was,thats not an accusation but an observation by Archive and others it's obvious it's a weird "Viva Brazil" mentality taking over in several statement's,and that's alright..Be proud!,But as insulting language go's the prodding and choice of demeanor used in many statements seems to be solely intended at firing up older robo fans and createing a distinct division on the board,I'm known to have nothing but distain for whats known about the reboot remake retake reima-..well you get the picture I don't like it.."BUT" I would be lieing if I said I wasn't at least intriqued by whats going on with this mess of an idea I just think in general there should be a total respect for the original property here..Especially here on the archive,Long before this thing saw the light of day many of us here kept board interest going fan comics were attempted fan films were kinda made suit's were built and tales were told..Years before this 2014 Robocop..Honestly you don't think this board has been watched by MGM and members of this production?,,Don't be naïve.The youtube channel got wacked with a direct address to here,and again it's business NO ONE goe's into any business blind they've tested the waters here..I 'd put a beer on that anyday of the week.

[RoboHell]

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Dick Jones-1987

I stand by any comments I have said about this remake or reboot or whatever it's called. My theory is every remake except Batman has been a complete disaster, the history is just not there for sucsess to be achieved and I really don't see where they are going be successful on this one, they really are grabing at straws here, the lazy suit design, the gimmicky bike, hell he's even going to have lights on him.

I understand they are targeting a new audience, but again history shows that these remakes or reboots have a track record of failing, with one Total Recall as a big example, plus with all bad press and the market already flooded with superhero movies its going to be tough for RoboCop to compete with Marvel and DC or any other big budget action movie.

I just don't see this being a "classic" that will have us wanting more.

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"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Dick Jones-1987

I stand by any comments I have said about this remake or reboot or whatever it's called. My theory is every remake except Batman has been a complete disaster, the history is just not there for sucsess to be achieved and I really don't see where they are going be successful on this one, they really are grabing at straws here, the lazy suit design, the gimmicky bike, hell he's even going to have lights on him.

I understand they are targeting a new audience, but again history shows that these remakes or reboots have a track record of failing, with one Total Recall as a big example, plus with all bad press and the market already flooded with superhero movies its going to be tough for RoboCop to compete with Marvel and DC or any other big budget action movie.

I just don't see this being a "classic" that will have us wanting more.

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"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Dick Jones-1987

I stand by any comments I have said about this remake or reboot or whatever it's called. My theory is every remake except Batman has been a complete disaster, the history is just not there for sucsess to be achieved and I really don't see where they are going be successful on this one, they really are grabing at straws here, the lazy suit design, the gimmicky bike, hell he's even going to have lights on him.

I understand they are targeting a new audience, but again history shows that these remakes or reboots have a track record of failing, with one Total Recall as a big example, plus with all bad press and the market already flooded with superhero movies its going to be tough for RoboCop to compete with Marvel and DC or any other big budget action movie.

I just don't see this being a "classic" that will have us wanting more.

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"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Dick Jones-1987

I stand by any comments I have said about this remake or reboot or whatever it's called. My theory is every remake except Batman has been a complete disaster, the history is just not there for sucsess to be achieved and I really don't see where they are going be successful on this one, they really are grabing at straws here, the lazy suit design, the gimmicky bike, hell he's even going to have lights on him.

I understand they are targeting a new audience, but again history shows that these remakes or reboots have a track record of failing, with one Total Recall as a big example, plus with all bad press and the market already flooded with superhero movies its going to be tough for RoboCop to compete with Marvel and DC or any other big budget action movie.

I just don't see this being a "classic" that will have us wanting more.

[Raymond]

We'll see. It's in to hate new movies. Been like that a long time now. Doesn't have to be the general remake/reboot hate. At least I'm happy some people start to understand a difference between straight up remaking something and rebooting a franchise.


Many remakes are dreadful. Some examples

Remake of Psycho. Almost a scene for scene remake. It wasn't needed, it brought nothing new to the table and it felt unnecessary.

Remake of Terror on Elm Street. Same tendency as above.



That's not the path I wanted for Robocop. Imagine if they made an almost scene for scene remake with updated CGI graphics and most characters replaced by new faces. No major new addition. That had been AWFUL. So when I saw the new direction I went: HELL YES. It's doing something new.


Then there's this notion that you must hate the old because you like the new. Not really.

But of course once you "join the dark side" and start to think of a new more agile and fast Robocop you might start to think in patterns like it's more realistic and that future weapons will still wreck future armor making the slow juggernaut approach very unrealistic.

Then hardcore fan of the original will take that as a major insult of the original...and the wheel turns


So that's not gonna change. I think many "2014 fans" are too tired to even take the battle and defend some of the new changes but also many of the 2014 fans have no idea if it will be a success or not.


Some want the new movie to be a success and some want it to fail, but most of all I think many of you don't want to be caught on the wrong side of whoever is right Right now the "It will fail" has the edge but in a few months time who knows.

[Joined]

We'll see. It's in to hate new movies. Been like that a long time now. Doesn't have to be the general remake/reboot hate. At least I'm happy some people start to understand a difference between straight up remaking something and rebooting a franchise.


Many remakes are dreadful. Some examples

Remake of Psycho. Almost a scene for scene remake. It wasn't needed, it brought nothing new to the table and it felt unnecessary.

Remake of Terror on Elm Street. Same tendency as above.



That's not the path I wanted for Robocop. Imagine if they made an almost scene for scene remake with updated CGI graphics and most characters replaced by new faces. No major new addition. That had been AWFUL. So when I saw the new direction I went: HELL YES. It's doing something new.


Then there's this notion that you must hate the old because you like the new. Not really.

But of course once you "join the dark side" and start to think of a new more agile and fast Robocop you might start to think in patterns like it's more realistic and that future weapons will still wreck future armor making the slow juggernaut approach very unrealistic.

Then hardcore fan of the original will take that as a major insult of the original...and the wheel turns


So that's not gonna change. I think many "2014 fans" are too tired to even take the battle and defend some of the new changes but also many of the 2014 fans have no idea if it will be a success or not.


Some want the new movie to be a success and some want it to fail, but most of all I think many of you don't want to be caught on the wrong side of whoever is right Right now the "It will fail" has the edge but in a few months time who knows.

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We'll see. It's in to hate new movies. Been like that a long time now. Doesn't have to be the general remake/reboot hate. At least I'm happy some people start to understand a difference between straight up remaking something and rebooting a franchise.


Many remakes are dreadful. Some examples

Remake of Psycho. Almost a scene for scene remake. It wasn't needed, it brought nothing new to the table and it felt unnecessary.

Remake of Terror on Elm Street. Same tendency as above.



That's not the path I wanted for Robocop. Imagine if they made an almost scene for scene remake with updated CGI graphics and most characters replaced by new faces. No major new addition. That had been AWFUL. So when I saw the new direction I went: HELL YES. It's doing something new.


Then there's this notion that you must hate the old because you like the new. Not really.

But of course once you "join the dark side" and start to think of a new more agile and fast Robocop you might start to think in patterns like it's more realistic and that future weapons will still wreck future armor making the slow juggernaut approach very unrealistic.

Then hardcore fan of the original will take that as a major insult of the original...and the wheel turns


So that's not gonna change. I think many "2014 fans" are too tired to even take the battle and defend some of the new changes but also many of the 2014 fans have no idea if it will be a success or not.


Some want the new movie to be a success and some want it to fail, but most of all I think many of you don't want to be caught on the wrong side of whoever is right Right now the "It will fail" has the edge but in a few months time who knows.

[omnicorp]

Hi guys ..... I have been holding my tongue on this for a long time indeed. Ever since we had the new set pics last early last year.
My feeling for the original film will never die ... Ever. The feeling it gave me when I was a kid . The buzz, adrenalin rush, excitement , hair standing on end every time I heard the poldouris sound track.......
For me this will always be the Robocop that I will relate to always.
Now there is this NEW VERSION of Robocop i see before my beleaguered eyes.
I dont hate it by any means , I think that what I have seen they have done a pretty decent job of it up to now.
People will have their opinions good or bad ( hence the back and forth on this board right now)
Who knows what the film will be like, but to hate it from just a few set pics is ridiculous and also on the flip side to love it and hype it up to death is even more dangerous I Think.
A trailer or even a poster would probably give this project a bit of credence or lack there of.. Lol.
If this film bombs then so be it... It cant be any worse than R3 ( which was so far bad that I was completely and utterly disgusted by it )
We will just sweep it under the carpet and bury it like all the other shite that dares to put the Robocop name on it.
On the other hand though if this turns out to be a great film balanced with story, effects, wow moments and with a great musical score I cant see the harm in loving both films as seperate entities.
I must admit I am probably not as hardcore about Robo as I once was and probably not as fanboy as most people on this forum but I do care about the legacy of Robocop a great deal and hope with fingers crossed that this film steps outside the mould of other shite NEW VERSIONS of classic films we have seen lately.
I like a great debate as much as the next man but shooting each other down in flames pro or against is a waste of forum space me thinks.

Positive thoughts means POWER

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Hi guys ..... I have been holding my tongue on this for a long time indeed. Ever since we had the new set pics last early last year.
My feeling for the original film will never die ... Ever. The feeling it gave me when I was a kid . The buzz, adrenalin rush, excitement , hair standing on end every time I heard the poldouris sound track.......
For me this will always be the Robocop that I will relate to always.
Now there is this NEW VERSION of Robocop i see before my beleaguered eyes.
I dont hate it by any means , I think that what I have seen they have done a pretty decent job of it up to now.
People will have their opinions good or bad ( hence the back and forth on this board right now)
Who knows what the film will be like, but to hate it from just a few set pics is ridiculous and also on the flip side to love it and hype it up to death is even more dangerous I Think.
A trailer or even a poster would probably give this project a bit of credence or lack there of.. Lol.
If this film bombs then so be it... It cant be any worse than R3 ( which was so far bad that I was completely and utterly disgusted by it )
We will just sweep it under the carpet and bury it like all the other shite that dares to put the Robocop name on it.
On the other hand though if this turns out to be a great film balanced with story, effects, wow moments and with a great musical score I cant see the harm in loving both films as seperate entities.
I must admit I am probably not as hardcore about Robo as I once was and probably not as fanboy as most people on this forum but I do care about the legacy of Robocop a great deal and hope with fingers crossed that this film steps outside the mould of other shite NEW VERSIONS of classic films we have seen lately.
I like a great debate as much as the next man but shooting each other down in flames pro or against is a waste of forum space me thinks.

Positive thoughts means POWER

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Hi guys ..... I have been holding my tongue on this for a long time indeed. Ever since we had the new set pics last early last year.
My feeling for the original film will never die ... Ever. The feeling it gave me when I was a kid . The buzz, adrenalin rush, excitement , hair standing on end every time I heard the poldouris sound track.......
For me this will always be the Robocop that I will relate to always.
Now there is this NEW VERSION of Robocop i see before my beleaguered eyes.
I dont hate it by any means , I think that what I have seen they have done a pretty decent job of it up to now.
People will have their opinions good or bad ( hence the back and forth on this board right now)
Who knows what the film will be like, but to hate it from just a few set pics is ridiculous and also on the flip side to love it and hype it up to death is even more dangerous I Think.
A trailer or even a poster would probably give this project a bit of credence or lack there of.. Lol.
If this film bombs then so be it... It cant be any worse than R3 ( which was so far bad that I was completely and utterly disgusted by it )
We will just sweep it under the carpet and bury it like all the other shite that dares to put the Robocop name on it.
On the other hand though if this turns out to be a great film balanced with story, effects, wow moments and with a great musical score I cant see the harm in loving both films as seperate entities.
I must admit I am probably not as hardcore about Robo as I once was and probably not as fanboy as most people on this forum but I do care about the legacy of Robocop a great deal and hope with fingers crossed that this film steps outside the mould of other shite NEW VERSIONS of classic films we have seen lately.
I like a great debate as much as the next man but shooting each other down in flames pro or against is a waste of forum space me thinks.

Positive thoughts means POWER

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Hi guys ..... I have been holding my tongue on this for a long time indeed. Ever since we had the new set pics last early last year.
My feeling for the original film will never die ... Ever. The feeling it gave me when I was a kid . The buzz, adrenalin rush, excitement , hair standing on end every time I heard the poldouris sound track.......
For me this will always be the Robocop that I will relate to always.
Now there is this NEW VERSION of Robocop i see before my beleaguered eyes.
I dont hate it by any means , I think that what I have seen they have done a pretty decent job of it up to now.
People will have their opinions good or bad ( hence the back and forth on this board right now)
Who knows what the film will be like, but to hate it from just a few set pics is ridiculous and also on the flip side to love it and hype it up to death is even more dangerous I Think.
A trailer or even a poster would probably give this project a bit of credence or lack there of.. Lol.
If this film bombs then so be it... It cant be any worse than R3 ( which was so far bad that I was completely and utterly disgusted by it )
We will just sweep it under the carpet and bury it like all the other shite that dares to put the Robocop name on it.
On the other hand though if this turns out to be a great film balanced with story, effects, wow moments and with a great musical score I cant see the harm in loving both films as seperate entities.
I must admit I am probably not as hardcore about Robo as I once was and probably not as fanboy as most people on this forum but I do care about the legacy of Robocop a great deal and hope with fingers crossed that this film steps outside the mould of other shite NEW VERSIONS of classic films we have seen lately.
I like a great debate as much as the next man but shooting each other down in flames pro or against is a waste of forum space me thinks.

Positive thoughts means POWER