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Well, sadly I meet an increasing amount of people that "hate" to watch old films, and yes I said old, anything from the 80's or 90's is old for them.

And I'm not talking about teenagers, but people in their thirties who obviously never developed in the past a big passion for films, but still they can consume a big amount of new and recent cinema. For these any film old enough to have actors they don't know (and you would be shocked, actors like Robert DeNiro would enter that cathegory), to have non CGI special effects, or just to feel and look old (cars, costumes, technology, etc.) are just painful to watch. They just don't see the point, they cannot talk with friends and colleagues about old films and actors, that's not cool.

These creatures can watch a remake like "Carrie" and find it interesting, but will never watch the original film from the 70's. Never. And again you would be surprised how many they are.

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Well, sadly I meet an increasing amount of people that "hate" to watch old films, and yes I said old, anything from the 80's or 90's is old for them.

And I'm not talking about teenagers, but people in their thirties who obviously never developed in the past a big passion for films, but still they can consume a big amount of new and recent cinema. For these any film old enough to have actors they don't know (and you would be shocked, actors like Robert DeNiro would enter that cathegory), to have non CGI special effects, or just to feel and look old (cars, costumes, technology, etc.) are just painful to watch. They just don't see the point, they cannot talk with friends and colleagues about old films and actors, that's not cool.

These creatures can watch a remake like "Carrie" and find it interesting, but will never watch the original film from the 70's. Never. And again you would be surprised how many they are.

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Well, sadly I meet an increasing amount of people that "hate" to watch old films, and yes I said old, anything from the 80's or 90's is old for them.

And I'm not talking about teenagers, but people in their thirties who obviously never developed in the past a big passion for films, but still they can consume a big amount of new and recent cinema. For these any film old enough to have actors they don't know (and you would be shocked, actors like Robert DeNiro would enter that cathegory), to have non CGI special effects, or just to feel and look old (cars, costumes, technology, etc.) are just painful to watch. They just don't see the point, they cannot talk with friends and colleagues about old films and actors, that's not cool.

These creatures can watch a remake like "Carrie" and find it interesting, but will never watch the original film from the 70's. Never. And again you would be surprised how many they are.

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Well, sadly I meet an increasing amount of people that "hate" to watch old films, and yes I said old, anything from the 80's or 90's is old for them.

And I'm not talking about teenagers, but people in their thirties who obviously never developed in the past a big passion for films, but still they can consume a big amount of new and recent cinema. For these any film old enough to have actors they don't know (and you would be shocked, actors like Robert DeNiro would enter that cathegory), to have non CGI special effects, or just to feel and look old (cars, costumes, technology, etc.) are just painful to watch. They just don't see the point, they cannot talk with friends and colleagues about old films and actors, that's not cool.

These creatures can watch a remake like "Carrie" and find it interesting, but will never watch the original film from the 70's. Never. And again you would be surprised how many they are.

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I don't think the opinions of those casual movie goers really matter all that much. I'm first and foremost interested in the opinion of people that love movies as a hobby or an art form. People have to be able to analyse the structure and plot of a movie in greater details than just "it was cool." It's a similar thing with music, games or even rollercoasters. There are people that are passionate about certain things and then there are casual people who just don't have a clue or even care. They just like to look at the pretty colors or dance to the fattest beats.

Speaking as guy that is passionate about movies and has seen a lot of them, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. It just has too many flaws on too many levels for it to work out.

It is perfectly OK to like or love it, I have many guilty pleasure movies such as the absolutely awful "Highlander2", but again, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. For someone to even hint that it is better than RoboCop 1987 is just outing one self as completely clueless when it comes to movies.

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I don't think the opinions of those casual movie goers really matter all that much. I'm first and foremost interested in the opinion of people that love movies as a hobby or an art form. People have to be able to analyse the structure and plot of a movie in greater details than just "it was cool." It's a similar thing with music, games or even rollercoasters. There are people that are passionate about certain things and then there are casual people who just don't have a clue or even care. They just like to look at the pretty colors or dance to the fattest beats.

Speaking as guy that is passionate about movies and has seen a lot of them, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. It just has too many flaws on too many levels for it to work out.

It is perfectly OK to like or love it, I have many guilty pleasure movies such as the absolutely awful "Highlander2", but again, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. For someone to even hint that it is better than RoboCop 1987 is just outing one self as completely clueless when it comes to movies.

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I don't think the opinions of those casual movie goers really matter all that much. I'm first and foremost interested in the opinion of people that love movies as a hobby or an art form. People have to be able to analyse the structure and plot of a movie in greater details than just "it was cool." It's a similar thing with music, games or even rollercoasters. There are people that are passionate about certain things and then there are casual people who just don't have a clue or even care. They just like to look at the pretty colors or dance to the fattest beats.

Speaking as guy that is passionate about movies and has seen a lot of them, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. It just has too many flaws on too many levels for it to work out.

It is perfectly OK to like or love it, I have many guilty pleasure movies such as the absolutely awful "Highlander2", but again, there is no scenario where RoboCop 2014 is a great movie. For someone to even hint that it is better than RoboCop 1987 is just outing one self as completely clueless when it comes to movies.

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Not really. A lot of people love the new movie. They just don't spend all day on internet forums slagging it off.

Nothing personal against anyone here, but as a fan of RoboCop since seeing the original on VHS 24 years ago, I'm kind of sick and depressed of the hate the movie's been getting by some people who I seriously question their motives.

It's like the constant bullshit rumour - YES BULLSHIT - about Padhila. Someone spread a rumour about him falling out with the execs early on. He said it wasn't true. But still now, you're all gonna reply with your theories as to why that's incorrect, because obviously you'd know more about Padhila's opinions than Padhila himself.

I feel quite ashamed to be a RoboCop fan sometimes. Until I watch the 2014 movie again, and I go, 'This is fucking awesome.'

Don't like it? Go and talk about the original all day.

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Not really. A lot of people love the new movie. They just don't spend all day on internet forums slagging it off.

Nothing personal against anyone here, but as a fan of RoboCop since seeing the original on VHS 24 years ago, I'm kind of sick and depressed of the hate the movie's been getting by some people who I seriously question their motives.

It's like the constant bullshit rumour - YES BULLSHIT - about Padhila. Someone spread a rumour about him falling out with the execs early on. He said it wasn't true. But still now, you're all gonna reply with your theories as to why that's incorrect, because obviously you'd know more about Padhila's opinions than Padhila himself.

I feel quite ashamed to be a RoboCop fan sometimes. Until I watch the 2014 movie again, and I go, 'This is fucking awesome.'

Don't like it? Go and talk about the original all day.

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Not really. A lot of people love the new movie. They just don't spend all day on internet forums slagging it off.

Nothing personal against anyone here, but as a fan of RoboCop since seeing the original on VHS 24 years ago, I'm kind of sick and depressed of the hate the movie's been getting by some people who I seriously question their motives.

It's like the constant bullshit rumour - YES BULLSHIT - about Padhila. Someone spread a rumour about him falling out with the execs early on. He said it wasn't true. But still now, you're all gonna reply with your theories as to why that's incorrect, because obviously you'd know more about Padhila's opinions than Padhila himself.

I feel quite ashamed to be a RoboCop fan sometimes. Until I watch the 2014 movie again, and I go, 'This is fucking awesome.'

Don't like it? Go and talk about the original all day.

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I don't think you should misfire any frustration and anger to the fans. The underperforming box-office (especially poor in the US) and the low imdb 6.4 rating are the reason why this film has not succeed. If you know "a lot" of people who loved it I can tell you according to those numbers that many more did not, and they don't even know who Jose Padilha is so they could care less about any fight with executive producers (and in fact those rumours try always to exonerate Padilha from all the films flaws and holes, so even if untrue they are just the opposite to bullshitting him).

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I don't think you should misfire any frustration and anger to the fans. The underperforming box-office (especially poor in the US) and the low imdb 6.4 rating are the reason why this film has not succeed. If you know "a lot" of people who loved it I can tell you according to those numbers that many more did not, and they don't even know who Jose Padilha is so they could care less about any fight with executive producers (and in fact those rumours try always to exonerate Padilha from all the films flaws and holes, so even if untrue they are just the opposite to bullshitting him).

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I don't think you should misfire any frustration and anger to the fans. The underperforming box-office (especially poor in the US) and the low imdb 6.4 rating are the reason why this film has not succeed. If you know "a lot" of people who loved it I can tell you according to those numbers that many more did not, and they don't even know who Jose Padilha is so they could care less about any fight with executive producers (and in fact those rumours try always to exonerate Padilha from all the films flaws and holes, so even if untrue they are just the opposite to bullshitting him).

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I don't think you should misfire any frustration and anger to the fans. The underperforming box-office (especially poor in the US) and the low imdb 6.4 rating are the reason why this film has not succeed. If you know "a lot" of people who loved it I can tell you according to those numbers that many more did not, and they don't even know who Jose Padilha is so they could care less about any fight with executive producers (and in fact those rumours try always to exonerate Padilha from all the films flaws and holes, so even if untrue they are just the opposite to bullshitting him).

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Bah, has to be this kind of thing when I'm off the net for a couple days (stupid modem and latency issues..) Anyway, Archive has said it all, he's said it before, as have I and numerous others who enjoy and appreciate film - The new RoboCop film does not compare to the original, nor is it a cinematic masterpiece in general.

Make your claims and observations all you want but the fact of the matter is it is a mediocre film, especially when comparing to other true masterpiece films even within just my lifetime, let alone for the last half century or so. It does not enter into that upper level of films, and it certainly provides no real improvement over the original. It has differences and new slants, but nothing that I can consider an 'improvement' for the most part. As Archive aptly stated, most of it's major elements are inferior. And as he also said, if there is a good argument for the remakeboot being a truly better film overall than the 1987 RoboCop, I too have yet to see it.

RoboCop 2014 may be a 'masterpiece' to those ignorants that artuditu mentions, people who by choice fail to appreciate older movies despite their greatness and are ready to fork over their wages for such 'amazing' hyperactive effects-laden things as the new Transformers film but for people like me, Archive, artu and most of the rest of us that are fans of movies, who love films and have watched countless examples made all over the place in regards to date, the remake just doesn't register as something to be highly-regarded. Plain and simple.

Anyone who really thinks this new film is 'better in every way' than the original is such an ignorant fool, clueless, a cretin with such a severely flawed perspective in regards to both cinema and this particular franchise that their opinions are worthless for any critical analysis. Insulting? Absolutely, but I'm calling it like I see it. And if it isn't that, then it must be trolling, still worthless.

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Bah, has to be this kind of thing when I'm off the net for a couple days (stupid modem and latency issues..) Anyway, Archive has said it all, he's said it before, as have I and numerous others who enjoy and appreciate film - The new RoboCop film does not compare to the original, nor is it a cinematic masterpiece in general.

Make your claims and observations all you want but the fact of the matter is it is a mediocre film, especially when comparing to other true masterpiece films even within just my lifetime, let alone for the last half century or so. It does not enter into that upper level of films, and it certainly provides no real improvement over the original. It has differences and new slants, but nothing that I can consider an 'improvement' for the most part. As Archive aptly stated, most of it's major elements are inferior. And as he also said, if there is a good argument for the remakeboot being a truly better film overall than the 1987 RoboCop, I too have yet to see it.

RoboCop 2014 may be a 'masterpiece' to those ignorants that artuditu mentions, people who by choice fail to appreciate older movies despite their greatness and are ready to fork over their wages for such 'amazing' hyperactive effects-laden things as the new Transformers film but for people like me, Archive, artu and most of the rest of us that are fans of movies, who love films and have watched countless examples made all over the place in regards to date, the remake just doesn't register as something to be highly-regarded. Plain and simple.

Anyone who really thinks this new film is 'better in every way' than the original is such an ignorant fool, clueless, a cretin with such a severely flawed perspective in regards to both cinema and this particular franchise that their opinions are worthless for any critical analysis. Insulting? Absolutely, but I'm calling it like I see it. And if it isn't that, then it must be trolling, still worthless.

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Bah, has to be this kind of thing when I'm off the net for a couple days (stupid modem and latency issues..) Anyway, Archive has said it all, he's said it before, as have I and numerous others who enjoy and appreciate film - The new RoboCop film does not compare to the original, nor is it a cinematic masterpiece in general.

Make your claims and observations all you want but the fact of the matter is it is a mediocre film, especially when comparing to other true masterpiece films even within just my lifetime, let alone for the last half century or so. It does not enter into that upper level of films, and it certainly provides no real improvement over the original. It has differences and new slants, but nothing that I can consider an 'improvement' for the most part. As Archive aptly stated, most of it's major elements are inferior. And as he also said, if there is a good argument for the remakeboot being a truly better film overall than the 1987 RoboCop, I too have yet to see it.

RoboCop 2014 may be a 'masterpiece' to those ignorants that artuditu mentions, people who by choice fail to appreciate older movies despite their greatness and are ready to fork over their wages for such 'amazing' hyperactive effects-laden things as the new Transformers film but for people like me, Archive, artu and most of the rest of us that are fans of movies, who love films and have watched countless examples made all over the place in regards to date, the remake just doesn't register as something to be highly-regarded. Plain and simple.

Anyone who really thinks this new film is 'better in every way' than the original is such an ignorant fool, clueless, a cretin with such a severely flawed perspective in regards to both cinema and this particular franchise that their opinions are worthless for any critical analysis. Insulting? Absolutely, but I'm calling it like I see it. And if it isn't that, then it must be trolling, still worthless.

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Bah, has to be this kind of thing when I'm off the net for a couple days (stupid modem and latency issues..) Anyway, Archive has said it all, he's said it before, as have I and numerous others who enjoy and appreciate film - The new RoboCop film does not compare to the original, nor is it a cinematic masterpiece in general.

Make your claims and observations all you want but the fact of the matter is it is a mediocre film, especially when comparing to other true masterpiece films even within just my lifetime, let alone for the last half century or so. It does not enter into that upper level of films, and it certainly provides no real improvement over the original. It has differences and new slants, but nothing that I can consider an 'improvement' for the most part. As Archive aptly stated, most of it's major elements are inferior. And as he also said, if there is a good argument for the remakeboot being a truly better film overall than the 1987 RoboCop, I too have yet to see it.

RoboCop 2014 may be a 'masterpiece' to those ignorants that artuditu mentions, people who by choice fail to appreciate older movies despite their greatness and are ready to fork over their wages for such 'amazing' hyperactive effects-laden things as the new Transformers film but for people like me, Archive, artu and most of the rest of us that are fans of movies, who love films and have watched countless examples made all over the place in regards to date, the remake just doesn't register as something to be highly-regarded. Plain and simple.

Anyone who really thinks this new film is 'better in every way' than the original is such an ignorant fool, clueless, a cretin with such a severely flawed perspective in regards to both cinema and this particular franchise that their opinions are worthless for any critical analysis. Insulting? Absolutely, but I'm calling it like I see it. And if it isn't that, then it must be trolling, still worthless.

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Are we going back to this again..?..Lets be clear the Remake was garbage slow as hell and about as exciting as a fuckin' root canal..Coming on here and proclaiming the excellence of 2014 is simply trolling..You can love t all you want I love some terrible films myself "Megaforce" but I can be real with myself and admit its a shit film..

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Are we going back to this again..?..Lets be clear the Remake was garbage slow as hell and about as exciting as a fuckin' root canal..Coming on here and proclaiming the excellence of 2014 is simply trolling..You can love t all you want I love some terrible films myself "Megaforce" but I can be real with myself and admit its a shit film..

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Are we going back to this again..?..Lets be clear the Remake was garbage slow as hell and about as exciting as a fuckin' root canal..Coming on here and proclaiming the excellence of 2014 is simply trolling..You can love t all you want I love some terrible films myself "Megaforce" but I can be real with myself and admit its a shit film..

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Are we going back to this again..?..Lets be clear the Remake was garbage slow as hell and about as exciting as a fuckin' root canal..Coming on here and proclaiming the excellence of 2014 is simply trolling..You can love t all you want I love some terrible films myself "Megaforce" but I can be real with myself and admit its a shit film..

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Whoah - I just came back sorry for the weeks and probably month out.
I see you guys start arguing the movie again.Well to me it's a 7.5/10 movie.I enjoyed it.It was fun,sleek and sometimes very nice to look at(the silver suit).I don't think it is a true masterpiece I liked it as much as the original.I know that if you check some pages on this topic you will see me saying something I didn't mean and was blinded by seeing a new robocop movie.
What I do hope - the sequel to become captain america the winter soldier improvement in every single way and telling a great story.Also I would like Robo using either 1 Auto-9 or 2 Auto-9's I don't like the idea of him using a taser and SMG.
The original is a true masterpiece and can't be outbeaten and it is still my favorite movie.The re-make isn't that high level of movies,but it ain't crap,it ain't mediocre as well it is just good-ok movie that delivers some fun.

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Whoah - I just came back sorry for the weeks and probably month out.
I see you guys start arguing the movie again.Well to me it's a 7.5/10 movie.I enjoyed it.It was fun,sleek and sometimes very nice to look at(the silver suit).I don't think it is a true masterpiece I liked it as much as the original.I know that if you check some pages on this topic you will see me saying something I didn't mean and was blinded by seeing a new robocop movie.
What I do hope - the sequel to become captain america the winter soldier improvement in every single way and telling a great story.Also I would like Robo using either 1 Auto-9 or 2 Auto-9's I don't like the idea of him using a taser and SMG.
The original is a true masterpiece and can't be outbeaten and it is still my favorite movie.The re-make isn't that high level of movies,but it ain't crap,it ain't mediocre as well it is just good-ok movie that delivers some fun.

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Whoah - I just came back sorry for the weeks and probably month out.
I see you guys start arguing the movie again.Well to me it's a 7.5/10 movie.I enjoyed it.It was fun,sleek and sometimes very nice to look at(the silver suit).I don't think it is a true masterpiece I liked it as much as the original.I know that if you check some pages on this topic you will see me saying something I didn't mean and was blinded by seeing a new robocop movie.
What I do hope - the sequel to become captain america the winter soldier improvement in every single way and telling a great story.Also I would like Robo using either 1 Auto-9 or 2 Auto-9's I don't like the idea of him using a taser and SMG.
The original is a true masterpiece and can't be outbeaten and it is still my favorite movie.The re-make isn't that high level of movies,but it ain't crap,it ain't mediocre as well it is just good-ok movie that delivers some fun.

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Whoah - I just came back sorry for the weeks and probably month out.
I see you guys start arguing the movie again.Well to me it's a 7.5/10 movie.I enjoyed it.It was fun,sleek and sometimes very nice to look at(the silver suit).I don't think it is a true masterpiece I liked it as much as the original.I know that if you check some pages on this topic you will see me saying something I didn't mean and was blinded by seeing a new robocop movie.
What I do hope - the sequel to become captain america the winter soldier improvement in every single way and telling a great story.Also I would like Robo using either 1 Auto-9 or 2 Auto-9's I don't like the idea of him using a taser and SMG.
The original is a true masterpiece and can't be outbeaten and it is still my favorite movie.The re-make isn't that high level of movies,but it ain't crap,it ain't mediocre as well it is just good-ok movie that delivers some fun.

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40,000 more people voted in IMDB (an increase of 50%) since last time I checked back in June. Rating is stable now, it just went down a decimal to 6.3

Metacritic scores 52% (the original 1987 film is 67%).

Rotten Tomatoes shows 48% (the original 88%).

What about you guys? Would you change your vote after all these months? I feel most fans here have become increasingly critical with the remake.

I still haven't watched it for a second time but right now I would still keep my 6 out of 10 vote. Interesting approach with dynamic directing but big screenplay flaws.

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40,000 more people voted in IMDB (an increase of 50%) since last time I checked back in June. Rating is stable now, it just went down a decimal to 6.3

Metacritic scores 52% (the original 1987 film is 67%).

Rotten Tomatoes shows 48% (the original 88%).

What about you guys? Would you change your vote after all these months? I feel most fans here have become increasingly critical with the remake.

I still haven't watched it for a second time but right now I would still keep my 6 out of 10 vote. Interesting approach with dynamic directing but big screenplay flaws.

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40,000 more people voted in IMDB (an increase of 50%) since last time I checked back in June. Rating is stable now, it just went down a decimal to 6.3

Metacritic scores 52% (the original 1987 film is 67%).

Rotten Tomatoes shows 48% (the original 88%).

What about you guys? Would you change your vote after all these months? I feel most fans here have become increasingly critical with the remake.

I still haven't watched it for a second time but right now I would still keep my 6 out of 10 vote. Interesting approach with dynamic directing but big screenplay flaws.

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40,000 more people voted in IMDB (an increase of 50%) since last time I checked back in June. Rating is stable now, it just went down a decimal to 6.3

Metacritic scores 52% (the original 1987 film is 67%).

Rotten Tomatoes shows 48% (the original 88%).

What about you guys? Would you change your vote after all these months? I feel most fans here have become increasingly critical with the remake.

I still haven't watched it for a second time but right now I would still keep my 6 out of 10 vote. Interesting approach with dynamic directing but big screenplay flaws.