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For many years this was THE RoboCop holy grail. A mysterious script of a movie that never was. A true sequel to RoboCop.
Now 28 years after being written it can finally be read and discussed by fans. It's a surreal moment to be sure.

This script is the first and only draft made and dates back to 1/1 1988.
It is missing two pages, 48 and 101, but has the added bonus of featuring the notes of the writers on a lot of the pages.
Some of the notes are more readable than others while some are hard or impossible to see.

As with a lot of things on the archive this was a team effort and several archive members helped getting to where we are now.
Lots of lots of paper copying and scanning occurred.

While I was happy to have the script in my possession, a worry was what the writers would think about having their rough and unfinished script out in the public.
Luckily Ed Neumeier gave us his blessing and OK'ed having the script on the site.




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Trying to decipher the first note:

"I wonder if we need (any situation?) of how Robo goes back to his old duties, (w/o?) (loving cliched?) (**hlocks?)/clips from previous movies. I somehow feel we need to link the two. Some how explain what Robo's (doing?) (looks like "in"?) the street again."

The second note's very hard to read, but here's what I could make out:

"(great?) (b**k? could be "back" or "black") (d****) (a******) ("in" or "on"?) (could be an l-word or d-word) (the middle part is heavily obscured) to ("be" or "a"?) very strong (and?) expensive"

Great read so far.
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Trying to decipher the first note:


This is what I deciphered it to:

    PAGE 3 NOTES:
    "I wonder if we need any explanation on how Robo came back to his old duties w/o (without) clichéd flashbacks/clips from the previous movie."

    "I somehow feel we need to link the two some how. Explain what Robo's doing on the streets again."




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You're right, I think that does say "flashbacks/clips".

Here's what I got from the third note:

"Unclear how/if Robo fits into this scene of (****ava(i?)so(r?)d) (R/B?)(ileys?)"

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Oh god, page 11 Shocked

Well...here's the best I've got:

"great image"

"how did these two (find?) him, where has he been for 25 years"

"why would he be (out?) in the junk heeps"

"there is also a special opportunity here for a salesman character, sort of a 21st century junkyard owner who fills ("m/gon?" or "on", or "us on") Robo's history capabilities, this could add a humorous touch and also would solve my/any question, also who (***ctly? could be "exactly") they are ("buying" or "busy") this from (couldn't make out that word), this place seems empty"

"or at least have the computer have a voice..."

whew.

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Page 13 note:

"again, how exactly does Robo fit in, and shouldn't Robo drive the story, (instead?) of the other way around?"

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Page 14 note:

"unclear exactly what Robo's purpose is"

Okay I'm done deciphering notes for now.
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:05 am Reply with quote

Just downloaded it.. Very Happy Will need to dedicate some free time to read it all proper but a great Robo-dream has been fulfilled! I've been looking forward to this for quite a while.. Many kudos and thanks to those involved in getting this gem available to us... yessir

PS - I feel this topic merits being in the 'Featured Topics' forum, but that's me.
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I'll be going on the road today, so this will provide an excellent read!
I'd like to take the rest of this post to thank everyone involved in making this available for the rest of us and to Ed Neumeier himself for OKing it.
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As Stan said above, big thanks to all those involved in obtaining this, and I'm going to see if it can be my bedtime storybook for a few nights - 112 pages of Robo bring it on!
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Hmm, that is very out there I must say.
It doesn't advance the character of Robocop/Murphy which I was hoping they would explore more, being the character they made.

For me it would be too far removed from R1. I think I would miss Robo in Detroit in his Taurus ridding the city of crime. At least Robo does say 'Drop it' - probably my favourite part of the script Happy robo

It is an interesting idea waking Robo up many years later, a theme I would have hoped the remake would have taken to continue on from the original. But this feels like any sci-fi. Maybe interesting to see in another what could have been R2 comic book.

Glad I have had the chance to read it, thanks to Archive et al.
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The script has some good, great and some really awful stuff in it. The writers weren't exaggerating when they call it a very rough draft.

The worst part for me is probably the robo-rap on the final pages. Sure it was 88 when the draft was written but that whole thing is b-movie terrible.

I both love and hate the 25 years later concept. It would have been different and made the movies stand apart like alien and aliens do, but it would have been a shame to loose al the characters from the first movie.




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Thanks a lot Archive for this!

We should be benevolent with the screenplay, it is stated to be a first rough draft, also for a sequel, so we cannot judge it as a finished product at all.

Said that, I read the first 20 pages and no much was working there really. As we all were afraid of, Robo is destroyed in the very first scene without almost saying a word, it may have been a cool action sequence (very reminiscent of R2 first scene by the way), he shoots many bad guys, but as a story of character and dialogues nothing happens there, it's empty.

What happens after, until the page 20, is also kind of weak. Since 1 page of a screenplay averages 1 minute of film screentime, we are 20 minutes in the movie, and there is just no antagonists yet, no character development, we don't know exactly what the characters are going after by repairing Robo (a lot of dialogues that keep pushing forward their real motivations and purposes).

That first section of the film would have had troubles being scrutinized by producers, it needs a lot of rework, the 20 first minutes are vital to any movie, in particular an action fast-paced movie. Robo just appeared in the beginning but without showing any personality, and now we are just waiting for him to be reactivated, there is no flavor to what is happening meanwhile.

Also as we knew, this becomes a high sience-fiction movie, I think it tries to emulate the Blade Runner feel (not a surprise, Verhoeven also wanted that kind of world, but due to budget constraints had to bring the story more to the present). As a curiosity, the beginning with Robo "dying" and then the robotic wreck yard reminds me a lot of Alien 3 (which was posterior obviously).




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I didnīt finished it, but it would be an interesting film to see. And Iīm not saying itīd be great.

I mean, the pace is way too much different than the first movie. Itīs more a movie about people talking and a cyborg using his weapon at some points. At least itīs like that for the moment. But Iīd find it interesting at the same time. I wonder how people would react to it.

Some people told us the lenght of the Roboviolence in the first film, not too long, but the whole movie goes fast and seems it has more action pieces than actual minutes of blood and bullets. Here the pacing is slow. Maybe they were trying to develop that futuristic world (which reminds me the one of Total Recall at times, with the driving droids).

Rough draft, indeed. Curious to see how it ends, so I think I shold stop reading your comments in this topic

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Its takes about half way through the script for the plot to thicken out and to understand how the characters are connected, which would have worked really well and interesting in their own merit, but I felt as though Robo was a second character just along for the ride with no real forefront in the movie.

I must say though they picked out the best bits to use in the series pilot 'the future of law enforcement" which I really enjoy watching. I think they understood how to write Neurobrain\Diana into the story and make Robo the main star.
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I must say though they picked out the best bits to use in the series pilot 'the future of law enforcement" which I really enjoy watching. I think they understood how to write Neurobrain\Diana into the story and make Robo the main star.


Makes sense. I always consider "The Future Of Law Enforcement" as the most 'finalized' take we would ever get on the Corporate Wars story. This is exemplified in my old article but I think it shows a re-working of it would have made for a pretty good film. Make it a bit darker and more adult and intense, give it more of a 'Verhoeven experience' treatment and that plus the story it had might have made for a nice R2, better than what we got (nothing against Miller's work, mind you, but like Verhoeven I do think many of the original sequel ideas were/are superior to what we ended up with).

Anyway, I have read a few pages, should really read more to get a better idea but I appreciate reading others' insight into it anyway right now.

There certainly appears to be some real wonky and off-kilter stuff for sure.. but as said, it is a rough draft. Again, with some polishing for better pacing and emphasis on Robo it might have been something at least interesting, if not actually quite good. I think the 'duck out of water' aspect is a good one to go with for a Robo story (Mortal Coils used it pretty well to an extent IIRC) and the future environment might have done for good satire and observations (Back To The Future II did it a bit and it worked, Blade Runner did also to a degree).

It not really hitting anything in the first while of it is a problem.. I don't mind some buildup but you can't overdo it or people will lose interest and understanding and you're in trouble. Reminds me of Escape From New York - I appreciate the cut bank robbery sequence as a bit of extra buildup now but I agree with it being cut from the finished film as it only drags things out and does so in a confusing manner - nothing makes sense until after the sequence itself. Seems to be a similar kind of thing here after Robo is blown up (which I can imagine in my head as being an amazing action-intro sequence).

I do think dropping all those established elements - OCP, Lewis, Reed, etc - is very risky. It can be done if you have near or equally good things to replace that with, but even so it's tough. In that regard I prefer the Series Pilot, as it retained the characters and that 'closer' near-future setting that the original had.

What Chanood said about "people talking and a cyborg using his weapon at some points" reminds me a bit of the remake.. not a good thing. Hopefully that isn't too much of it, though it rather seems it. I remember the retrospective on the site about essentially making Robo a pawn in other bigger schemes and pieces and being reminded of that heavily when I first saw the remake. Bah. But again, need to read more for myself of course. I think we can all agree this is a wonderful and fascinating discovery and adventure for all of us. Smile
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The script was... an interesting read. Not a particularly good one, but acceptable as a first rough draft.

It has a lot of problems though. One of those is that Robo is barely in it. He's not the main character, but more of a tool for the story. His humanity is pretty much gone and his weapon upgrades remind me of the Gunarm and Alpha Commando quite a bit.
Speaking of Alpha Commando, it definitely seems to carry some of Corporate Wars' spirit. The action scenes in the script are very cartoonish, especially the fight against the two Destructobots. It sounds like something that'd be really neat to watch, but not necessarily something I'd expect to see in a RoboCop movie.
Visually, I had some trouble imagining it. I couldn't get a constant feel of the way it would've looked - derelict and run-down or somewhat of a Delta City surrounded by ghettos and ruins? The only thing I thought was that Robo's design would definitely look archaic when compared to the rest. Which might have been the point of it, to some extent.
The potential of NeuroBrain and her relationship with Murphy is unexplored, but fortunately, they fixed that when The Series came along.

Overall, it's a script that doesn't really need RoboCop in it. But heck, I love the idea of Bixby Snider as president. You could even say that I'd buy that for a dollar.
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