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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:31 pm |
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Interesting new quote from verhoeven from this link:
http://collider.com/paul-verhoeven-elle-robocop-reboot-interview/
VERHOEVEN: "It’s interesting, I just heard that they want to…when I did Robocop they immediately wanted to do a sequel the next year. This was Orion who went bankrupt, but that’s ok. So I was interested. In the United States they make sequels. I get it. So myself and Michael Miner started working on ideas. We were really thinking about it because I feel a sequel has to go further. I think one of the best sequels is Star Wars 2, probably. That is a sequel that’s good. Normally they aren’t good because it’s so difficult to find that inspiration.
So I really wanted to take some time and develop something that deserved to exist and was different. But Orion didn’t want to wait, so they used other people. But I just heard that MGM was thinking of picking up the ideas that we were working on in ’87 (Laughs). I don’t know if they’ll do it, but they are talking about it."
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:04 pm |
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Whoa! This was unexpected. I dare not get my hopes too high considering the way MGM have treated the character the last few years but just the thought is definitely exciting. If MGM could follow the example of Orion from back in the day and hire a director/writer team with a unique vision and fuck off the set until it's all said and done maybe something like this could be great. As much as I disliked about the remake I can't help but think that Padilha had a much different movie in mind when he was hired. To me, everything after the that body horror reveal scene seems like someone else's movie. Like the studio took over after that.
Oh well, this certainly gives us a little bit to chew on for a while along with RoboDoc and the inevitable boost in recognition with the 30th anniversary coming up. Great find, Archive!
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:16 pm |
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The ideas from 87 that Verhoeven talk about is of course "Corporate Wars" as we all know.
so we have to ask ourself the question.
Is it possible that releasing the script here and it being out there on the net caught MGM's attention? That they read the script and now see potential in it? Ancient RoboCop theorists say YES!
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artuditu mio Cid
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:32 pm |
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It would be too much of a coincidence. But how would Verhoeven learn about it? Did MGM approach him? He says "I just heard" as if it was a word of mouth rumor, but being himself now so far (in time and space) from Hollywood, it's weird he got to hear it.
Anyway, we know how these things work, MGM could have just had a quick look at CW script, made a couple of calls to screenwriters to take a look at it and give feedback, and biggest chance is they won't do anything else with it. But at least it may be a hint they are still figuring out ways to keep the franchise alive, which is normal, it's a property.
Yet, fresh news is blockbusters lost money this summer, first serious signal saturation of franchises and reboots? More reasons for Sony to be afraid to risk anything with Robo. Unless they came to the conclusion Robo should not have a blockbuster budget to begin with, but CW is high sci-fi which would need a lot of money...
Again, a very interesting thing about Verhoeven's interview is his view on the remake: "they seem to think that the lightness of say Total Recall and Robocop is a hindrance. So they take these somewhat absurd stories and make them much too serious. I think that is a mistake. Especially in Robocop when he awakens they gave him the same brain. He’s a horribly injured and amputated victim, which is horrifying and tragic from the very beginning."
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:31 pm |
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artuditu : | It would be too much of a coincidence. But how would Verhoeven learn about it? Did MGM approach him? He says "I just heard" as if it was a word of mouth rumor, but being himself now so far (in time and space) from Hollywood, it's weird he got to hear it. |
He usually hangs out with Ed Neumeier, and he works for Sony. Also, it has a mention on RebootCop, so maybe he´d be the missing link.
Quote: | Playing it straight without any humour is a problem and not an improvement |
Amen to that.
I´m interesting on watching "Elle", but not sure if it´ll have a big distribution in Spain. As for "Corporate Wars", if they forget about RebootCop and let the original guys do another "reboot" connecting with the original, yes. If not, I think it´d be better to leave it alone.
What if MGM tried to do something with the character one more time and they announce some interesting news for the 30th anniversary? Would be cool, if done well.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:44 pm |
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In my fantasy world mind, every time Neumeier and Verhoeven get together for these brunches and meet ups they have, they're honing the perfect RoboCop sequel. Until I know otherwise that's what I'll continue to imagine.
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Stan The Man Bah Concepts Division
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:07 pm |
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POCOBOR : | In my fantasy world mind, every time Neumeier and Verhoeven get together for these brunches and meet ups they have, they're honing the perfect RoboCop sequel. Until I know otherwise that's what I'll continue to imagine. |
Same here, though I think artu said it that it's just too good to really believe something will come of it really. But who knows?
That said, great article. Verhoeven has hit the nail on the head on it all, as he always has. Especially on the remake, that omitting that lightness and going too serious is a problem, as artu quoted. The Empire Strikes Back was a good pick for his point about a sequel going further. "If I like it, I say, “fuck it.” " God, I love this man.
I still enjoy the Corporate Wars concept, and always believed it would be a great route for a reboot. It might work as a RemakeCop sequel, but even then, bah. Much as I want to like parts of R2014 they screwed the pooch and it's hard justifying salvaging it. _________________ I don't wanna pay that, PhotoBucket. Now maybe you haven't heard, but I'm the guy in old Archive. So hows about you just shit snow for a year and I'll figure out something else. Sayonara!
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:37 pm |
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POCOBOR : | If MGM could follow the example of Orion from back in the day and hire a director/writer team with a unique vision and fuck off the set until it's all said and done maybe something like this could be great. |
Neumeier & Verhoeven's vision not unique enough?
No one else seems capable of surmounting it.
It worked for George Miller and Fury Road (Lynch & Frost on Twin Peaks is next up) so I'd rather see the originals get the first offer of a second chance at their Corprate Wars ideas before anyone else.
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:34 am |
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What a great read, even though it was short overall. I would love to hear Paul talk about these topics and more in greater detail.
Building off of what Stan said, I absolutely love the way his mind works and registers information. Not only did he make his point when using ESB as his example, but I love that he simply refers to the movie as Star Wars 2.
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POCOBOR L-L2
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:44 am |
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Judge Black : | POCOBOR : | If MGM could follow the example of Orion from back in the day and hire a director/writer team with a unique vision and fuck off the set until it's all said and done maybe something like this could be great. |
Neumeier & Verhoeven's vision not unique enough?
No one else seems capable of surmounting it.
It worked for George Miller and Fury Road (Lynch & Frost on Twin Peaks is next up) so I'd rather see the originals get the first offer of a second chance at their Corprate Wars ideas before anyone else. |
The only reason I didn't mention Ed and Paul is because I assume they wouldn't be interested or at least Paul wouldn't since in the interview with Collider he laughed at the thought of MGM using ideas from Corporate Wars to make another movie. Not ruling it out and OF COURSE they'd be the ideal team to helm another RoboCop movie, that goes without saying, right? Hence why I mentioned in another post here that the two of them reteaming for RoboCop is a fantasy of mine.
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:48 pm |
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With the corporate Trump-bot in power, now more than ever is the ideal time to do a proper - satirical - version of The Corporate Wars, RoboCop sequel.
So-called "liberal" Hollywood should be jumping at the chance to fund it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:50 pm |
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Judge Black : | With the corporate Trump-bot in power, now more than ever is the ideal time to do a proper - satirical - version of The Corporate Wars, RoboCop sequel.
So-called "liberal" Hollywood should be jumping at the chance to fund it. |
Looks like my idea came true.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:14 pm |
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Judge Black : | Judge Black : | With the corporate Trump-bot in power, now more than ever is the ideal time to do a proper - satirical - version of The Corporate Wars, RoboCop sequel.
So-called "liberal" Hollywood should be jumping at the chance to fund it. |
Looks like my idea came true. |
Nice one Judge!
Something tells me it won't be Bixby Snyder as President. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it is an over-the-top fascist, sexist, billionaire Detroit Mayor who was a reality TV star in the mould of Trump. I don't see where a President fits into the city of Detroit. Though that's just my hunch.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:31 pm |
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Having a parody trump character seems too obvious i think. Every comedian and every show on TV has made fun of trump in one way or another and assuming "RoboCop Returns" is released in 2020 the whole thing is just gonna feel extremely old and done.
I also hope they spin the satire in another way and don't go the social media parody angle. It's been done so many times.
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