RoboCop 2: Corporate Wars - Script

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I just finished reading this for the first time and I came away from it thinking it just was not that efficient or that great of a script as a whole. The introduction with blasting RoboCop to pieces and leaving him for dead for 25 years is ballsy but it is not something I personally would have wanted from a sequel. It gives me PTSD flashbacks to the beginning of Alien 3 and I absolutely hate that movie. Plus it seems like he was blown up far too easily.

Also, the script has no mention at all of Lewis or Reed. Which are two characters that fans wanted to see more of. Some of the satire here is fun, the social commentary about the middle class living in shopping malls and the lower class living on the outskirts of society was intriguing. I didn't feel the political aspect of the script clicked that well though. Especially Flicker.

And worst of all, RoboCop here is transformed into a Judge Dredd knock off complete with repprogramming that makes him even read perps their rights the exact same way as Dredd does in the comics. I know Ed and Michael were huge fans of Dredd but that doesn't mean RoboCop needs to literally be Judge Dredd. The dialogue as a whole was quite weak throughout as well. And I didn't get the whole RoboCop falling in love with a brain thing. That just did not work at all.

It just lacked far too much for me. It lacked the emotional impact, the story was not particularly engaging, and RoboCop is barely in the story and does not seem to do a whole lot either. A mish-mash of interesting ideas but nothing coherent enough for a feature film. And even with a rewrite, I still think it has too many crippling problems that it would simply not have worked. It was too strange and if it was to be brought to the screen it would have had to essentially be re-written from scratch.

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I just finished reading this for the first time and I came away from it thinking it just was not that efficient or that great of a script as a whole. The introduction with blasting RoboCop to pieces and leaving him for dead for 25 years is ballsy but it is not something I personally would have wanted from a sequel. It gives me PTSD flashbacks to the beginning of Alien 3 and I absolutely hate that movie. Plus it seems like he was blown up far too easily.

Also, the script has no mention at all of Lewis or Reed. Which are two characters that fans wanted to see more of. Some of the satire here is fun, the social commentary about the middle class living in shopping malls and the lower class living on the outskirts of society was intriguing. I didn't feel the political aspect of the script clicked that well though. Especially Flicker.

And worst of all, RoboCop here is transformed into a Judge Dredd knock off complete with repprogramming that makes him even read perps their rights the exact same way as Dredd does in the comics. I know Ed and Michael were huge fans of Dredd but that doesn't mean RoboCop needs to literally be Judge Dredd. The dialogue as a whole was quite weak throughout as well. And I didn't get the whole RoboCop falling in love with a brain thing. That just did not work at all.

It just lacked far too much for me. It lacked the emotional impact, the story was not particularly engaging, and RoboCop is barely in the story and does not seem to do a whole lot either. A mish-mash of interesting ideas but nothing coherent enough for a feature film. And even with a rewrite, I still think it has too many crippling problems that it would simply not have worked. It was too strange and if it was to be brought to the screen it would have had to essentially be re-written from scratch.

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I just finished reading this for the first time and I came away from it thinking it just was not that efficient or that great of a script as a whole. The introduction with blasting RoboCop to pieces and leaving him for dead for 25 years is ballsy but it is not something I personally would have wanted from a sequel. It gives me PTSD flashbacks to the beginning of Alien 3 and I absolutely hate that movie. Plus it seems like he was blown up far too easily.

Also, the script has no mention at all of Lewis or Reed. Which are two characters that fans wanted to see more of. Some of the satire here is fun, the social commentary about the middle class living in shopping malls and the lower class living on the outskirts of society was intriguing. I didn't feel the political aspect of the script clicked that well though. Especially Flicker.

And worst of all, RoboCop here is transformed into a Judge Dredd knock off complete with repprogramming that makes him even read perps their rights the exact same way as Dredd does in the comics. I know Ed and Michael were huge fans of Dredd but that doesn't mean RoboCop needs to literally be Judge Dredd. The dialogue as a whole was quite weak throughout as well. And I didn't get the whole RoboCop falling in love with a brain thing. That just did not work at all.

It just lacked far too much for me. It lacked the emotional impact, the story was not particularly engaging, and RoboCop is barely in the story and does not seem to do a whole lot either. A mish-mash of interesting ideas but nothing coherent enough for a feature film. And even with a rewrite, I still think it has too many crippling problems that it would simply not have worked. It was too strange and if it was to be brought to the screen it would have had to essentially be re-written from scratch.

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I just finished reading this for the first time and I came away from it thinking it just was not that efficient or that great of a script as a whole. The introduction with blasting RoboCop to pieces and leaving him for dead for 25 years is ballsy but it is not something I personally would have wanted from a sequel. It gives me PTSD flashbacks to the beginning of Alien 3 and I absolutely hate that movie. Plus it seems like he was blown up far too easily.

Also, the script has no mention at all of Lewis or Reed. Which are two characters that fans wanted to see more of. Some of the satire here is fun, the social commentary about the middle class living in shopping malls and the lower class living on the outskirts of society was intriguing. I didn't feel the political aspect of the script clicked that well though. Especially Flicker.

And worst of all, RoboCop here is transformed into a Judge Dredd knock off complete with repprogramming that makes him even read perps their rights the exact same way as Dredd does in the comics. I know Ed and Michael were huge fans of Dredd but that doesn't mean RoboCop needs to literally be Judge Dredd. The dialogue as a whole was quite weak throughout as well. And I didn't get the whole RoboCop falling in love with a brain thing. That just did not work at all.

It just lacked far too much for me. It lacked the emotional impact, the story was not particularly engaging, and RoboCop is barely in the story and does not seem to do a whole lot either. A mish-mash of interesting ideas but nothing coherent enough for a feature film. And even with a rewrite, I still think it has too many crippling problems that it would simply not have worked. It was too strange and if it was to be brought to the screen it would have had to essentially be re-written from scratch.

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Re-read this the other day after a conversation with friends.

Although I acknowledge it's a first draft, I can't deny that this script is utter shite. In a way it feels like it was written by people who had seen the first film, but didn't understand why it worked. The gritty "five minutes into the future" feel is tossed aside for a third rate Blade Runner/Judge Dredd/American Flagg pastiche. It makes me understand that one can create a successful character while also having the wrong idea as to why people love the character.

The political intrigue is nice and elaborate, but doesn't really go anywhere for me, unlike the original which drove the story as much as Robo's character arc. And the ending is a bad parody of the original's misleadingly "happy" ending.

Could Verhoeven have salvaged this? Maybe, but it would have needed extensive rewriting.

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Re-read this the other day after a conversation with friends.

Although I acknowledge it's a first draft, I can't deny that this script is utter shite. In a way it feels like it was written by people who had seen the first film, but didn't understand why it worked. The gritty "five minutes into the future" feel is tossed aside for a third rate Blade Runner/Judge Dredd/American Flagg pastiche. It makes me understand that one can create a successful character while also having the wrong idea as to why people love the character.

The political intrigue is nice and elaborate, but doesn't really go anywhere for me, unlike the original which drove the story as much as Robo's character arc. And the ending is a bad parody of the original's misleadingly "happy" ending.

Could Verhoeven have salvaged this? Maybe, but it would have needed extensive rewriting.

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Re-read this the other day after a conversation with friends.

Although I acknowledge it's a first draft, I can't deny that this script is utter shite. In a way it feels like it was written by people who had seen the first film, but didn't understand why it worked. The gritty "five minutes into the future" feel is tossed aside for a third rate Blade Runner/Judge Dredd/American Flagg pastiche. It makes me understand that one can create a successful character while also having the wrong idea as to why people love the character.

The political intrigue is nice and elaborate, but doesn't really go anywhere for me, unlike the original which drove the story as much as Robo's character arc. And the ending is a bad parody of the original's misleadingly "happy" ending.

Could Verhoeven have salvaged this? Maybe, but it would have needed extensive rewriting.

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Re-read this the other day after a conversation with friends.

Although I acknowledge it's a first draft, I can't deny that this script is utter shite. In a way it feels like it was written by people who had seen the first film, but didn't understand why it worked. The gritty "five minutes into the future" feel is tossed aside for a third rate Blade Runner/Judge Dredd/American Flagg pastiche. It makes me understand that one can create a successful character while also having the wrong idea as to why people love the character.

The political intrigue is nice and elaborate, but doesn't really go anywhere for me, unlike the original which drove the story as much as Robo's character arc. And the ending is a bad parody of the original's misleadingly "happy" ending.

Could Verhoeven have salvaged this? Maybe, but it would have needed extensive rewriting.

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thanks for bumping this post, I had no idea the draft was released, I definitely need to take a peek at it..

Being completely biased here but I still Think my fanfic Idea would be terribly fun

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thanks for bumping this post, I had no idea the draft was released, I definitely need to take a peek at it..

Being completely biased here but I still Think my fanfic Idea would be terribly fun

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thanks for bumping this post, I had no idea the draft was released, I definitely need to take a peek at it..

Being completely biased here but I still Think my fanfic Idea would be terribly fun

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The memory I have from reading the screenplay back in the day is one of a big mess.

It just felt a sequel that did not want to be Robocop anymore, the main character was an excuse to take us to a new universe or franchise, as mentioned above something more Blade Runner / Judge Dredd / American Flagg, way more high sci-fi and dystopian, and with more convoluted neo-noir political intrigues.

It makes me think that once the writers assumed they would have less budget constraints they could think much bigger, they felt they needed to innovate and do something different, which of course is a brave thing to do, but in the process they threw away some simplicity and directness of the original that worked so well. Many times constraints and limitations increase creativity, but the creator tends to be greedy of bigger budgets and more freedom, forgetting that a lower budget can actually give you more freedom and force you to innovate in some cases.

Even if Orion are usually the bad guys in the history of Robo sequels, and knowing that they were just too impatient and wanted to rush the sequels to squeeze every golden egg from the goose, I still would have reacted similarly when presented with the Corporate Wars script.

For years when I kept hearing of a unproduced screenplay titled Corporate Wars I pictured in my mind something like the first Marvel comic issues, where another OCP-like competitor launches their own Robo model.

So yes, I was disappointed when reading the CW screenplay but with time I guess I realized we didn’t miss something great. All in all, I’m happy with what we got with R2 and the Marvel comic books.

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The memory I have from reading the screenplay back in the day is one of a big mess.

It just felt a sequel that did not want to be Robocop anymore, the main character was an excuse to take us to a new universe or franchise, as mentioned above something more Blade Runner / Judge Dredd / American Flagg, way more high sci-fi and dystopian, and with more convoluted neo-noir political intrigues.

It makes me think that once the writers assumed they would have less budget constraints they could think much bigger, they felt they needed to innovate and do something different, which of course is a brave thing to do, but in the process they threw away some simplicity and directness of the original that worked so well. Many times constraints and limitations increase creativity, but the creator tends to be greedy of bigger budgets and more freedom, forgetting that a lower budget can actually give you more freedom and force you to innovate in some cases.

Even if Orion are usually the bad guys in the history of Robo sequels, and knowing that they were just too impatient and wanted to rush the sequels to squeeze every golden egg from the goose, I still would have reacted similarly when presented with the Corporate Wars script.

For years when I kept hearing of a unproduced screenplay titled Corporate Wars I pictured in my mind something like the first Marvel comic issues, where another OCP-like competitor launches their own Robo model.

So yes, I was disappointed when reading the CW screenplay but with time I guess I realized we didn’t miss something great. All in all, I’m happy with what we got with R2 and the Marvel comic books.

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The memory I have from reading the screenplay back in the day is one of a big mess.

It just felt a sequel that did not want to be Robocop anymore, the main character was an excuse to take us to a new universe or franchise, as mentioned above something more Blade Runner / Judge Dredd / American Flagg, way more high sci-fi and dystopian, and with more convoluted neo-noir political intrigues.

It makes me think that once the writers assumed they would have less budget constraints they could think much bigger, they felt they needed to innovate and do something different, which of course is a brave thing to do, but in the process they threw away some simplicity and directness of the original that worked so well. Many times constraints and limitations increase creativity, but the creator tends to be greedy of bigger budgets and more freedom, forgetting that a lower budget can actually give you more freedom and force you to innovate in some cases.

Even if Orion are usually the bad guys in the history of Robo sequels, and knowing that they were just too impatient and wanted to rush the sequels to squeeze every golden egg from the goose, I still would have reacted similarly when presented with the Corporate Wars script.

For years when I kept hearing of a unproduced screenplay titled Corporate Wars I pictured in my mind something like the first Marvel comic issues, where another OCP-like competitor launches their own Robo model.

So yes, I was disappointed when reading the CW screenplay but with time I guess I realized we didn’t miss something great. All in all, I’m happy with what we got with R2 and the Marvel comic books.

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The memory I have from reading the screenplay back in the day is one of a big mess.

It just felt a sequel that did not want to be Robocop anymore, the main character was an excuse to take us to a new universe or franchise, as mentioned above something more Blade Runner / Judge Dredd / American Flagg, way more high sci-fi and dystopian, and with more convoluted neo-noir political intrigues.

It makes me think that once the writers assumed they would have less budget constraints they could think much bigger, they felt they needed to innovate and do something different, which of course is a brave thing to do, but in the process they threw away some simplicity and directness of the original that worked so well. Many times constraints and limitations increase creativity, but the creator tends to be greedy of bigger budgets and more freedom, forgetting that a lower budget can actually give you more freedom and force you to innovate in some cases.

Even if Orion are usually the bad guys in the history of Robo sequels, and knowing that they were just too impatient and wanted to rush the sequels to squeeze every golden egg from the goose, I still would have reacted similarly when presented with the Corporate Wars script.

For years when I kept hearing of a unproduced screenplay titled Corporate Wars I pictured in my mind something like the first Marvel comic issues, where another OCP-like competitor launches their own Robo model.

So yes, I was disappointed when reading the CW screenplay but with time I guess I realized we didn’t miss something great. All in all, I’m happy with what we got with R2 and the Marvel comic books.