RoboCop 2 - What happened?

[KidGoesWild]

I mean all traces of human being and Murphy., not leaving any kind of emotions or persinality in him. Thats why he instantly seemed "off" when I first saw the movie in R3. That wasnt the RoboCop I knew and I couldnt identify with the piece of hardware that he was changed into. To further explain what I mean, here are just a few examples:

-In the first 2 movies, Robocop IS Murphy, with the same personality and everything, only with sgnificant memory loss and enclosed in a metallic body. in "RoboCop", we see Robo in pain many times, gritting his teeth and twisting when he's fighting the painful program in Jones' office:


Or when he's impaled by Clarence, or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team. We see him sad and depresses. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when hes taking the debris off of him after killing Clarence. Hes a MAN, just in a cyborg body

Same in RoboCop 2 - We see him twice on a verge of crying, with a shaky voice, when hes responding to Hozlgang's mental bashing and when he's comforting Hob. We see him sad and we see screaming and gritting teeth in pain, like when hes captured, fought and then tortured in factory or when hes electrocuting himself, we see him pissed off like when in the factory, promising that he will kill him:


And we also see him in pain and physcially reacting when hurt and making effort to lift/move heavy things, like when hes pulling Cain off the rooftop

Now take a look at R3. Nothing. Throughout the entire movie, theres not one trace of emotions or humanity on his part. His voice is so deep that he sounds angry all the time, but hes not. Hes just raising his voice sometimes. Look how he reacts when he gets hurt:



See the difference? He feels no pain. He acts like hes constantly on valium. Remember in R1 when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in R3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all. And not to mention he's talk - "vehicle approaching", "tracking". Not recognizing jokes, like the Mac truck joke and responding to them literally, not even being capable of humane conversation with a kid. The kid asks him "how are you feeling?" and he says "My efficiency rate is 93%"

And theres plenty more. The bottom line is, Dekker completely erased Murphy and replaced him with a piece of stiff hardware that has as much personality as a toaster. I mean, can you imagine the Robo from the first two movies after getting hurt by Clarence or Cain;s gang saying " you are under arrest for destroying Police property"?

This is all the expressions we see in Robo throughout the entire movie

[Joined]

I mean all traces of human being and Murphy., not leaving any kind of emotions or persinality in him. Thats why he instantly seemed "off" when I first saw the movie in R3. That wasnt the RoboCop I knew and I couldnt identify with the piece of hardware that he was changed into. To further explain what I mean, here are just a few examples:

-In the first 2 movies, Robocop IS Murphy, with the same personality and everything, only with sgnificant memory loss and enclosed in a metallic body. in "RoboCop", we see Robo in pain many times, gritting his teeth and twisting when he's fighting the painful program in Jones' office:


Or when he's impaled by Clarence, or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team. We see him sad and depresses. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when hes taking the debris off of him after killing Clarence. Hes a MAN, just in a cyborg body

Same in RoboCop 2 - We see him twice on a verge of crying, with a shaky voice, when hes responding to Hozlgang's mental bashing and when he's comforting Hob. We see him sad and we see screaming and gritting teeth in pain, like when hes captured, fought and then tortured in factory or when hes electrocuting himself, we see him pissed off like when in the factory, promising that he will kill him:


And we also see him in pain and physcially reacting when hurt and making effort to lift/move heavy things, like when hes pulling Cain off the rooftop

Now take a look at R3. Nothing. Throughout the entire movie, theres not one trace of emotions or humanity on his part. His voice is so deep that he sounds angry all the time, but hes not. Hes just raising his voice sometimes. Look how he reacts when he gets hurt:



See the difference? He feels no pain. He acts like hes constantly on valium. Remember in R1 when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in R3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all. And not to mention he's talk - "vehicle approaching", "tracking". Not recognizing jokes, like the Mac truck joke and responding to them literally, not even being capable of humane conversation with a kid. The kid asks him "how are you feeling?" and he says "My efficiency rate is 93%"

And theres plenty more. The bottom line is, Dekker completely erased Murphy and replaced him with a piece of stiff hardware that has as much personality as a toaster. I mean, can you imagine the Robo from the first two movies after getting hurt by Clarence or Cain;s gang saying " you are under arrest for destroying Police property"?

This is all the expressions we see in Robo throughout the entire movie

[Post Count]

I mean all traces of human being and Murphy., not leaving any kind of emotions or persinality in him. Thats why he instantly seemed "off" when I first saw the movie in R3. That wasnt the RoboCop I knew and I couldnt identify with the piece of hardware that he was changed into. To further explain what I mean, here are just a few examples:

-In the first 2 movies, Robocop IS Murphy, with the same personality and everything, only with sgnificant memory loss and enclosed in a metallic body. in "RoboCop", we see Robo in pain many times, gritting his teeth and twisting when he's fighting the painful program in Jones' office:


Or when he's impaled by Clarence, or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team. We see him sad and depresses. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when hes taking the debris off of him after killing Clarence. Hes a MAN, just in a cyborg body

Same in RoboCop 2 - We see him twice on a verge of crying, with a shaky voice, when hes responding to Hozlgang's mental bashing and when he's comforting Hob. We see him sad and we see screaming and gritting teeth in pain, like when hes captured, fought and then tortured in factory or when hes electrocuting himself, we see him pissed off like when in the factory, promising that he will kill him:


And we also see him in pain and physcially reacting when hurt and making effort to lift/move heavy things, like when hes pulling Cain off the rooftop

Now take a look at R3. Nothing. Throughout the entire movie, theres not one trace of emotions or humanity on his part. His voice is so deep that he sounds angry all the time, but hes not. Hes just raising his voice sometimes. Look how he reacts when he gets hurt:



See the difference? He feels no pain. He acts like hes constantly on valium. Remember in R1 when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in R3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all. And not to mention he's talk - "vehicle approaching", "tracking". Not recognizing jokes, like the Mac truck joke and responding to them literally, not even being capable of humane conversation with a kid. The kid asks him "how are you feeling?" and he says "My efficiency rate is 93%"

And theres plenty more. The bottom line is, Dekker completely erased Murphy and replaced him with a piece of stiff hardware that has as much personality as a toaster. I mean, can you imagine the Robo from the first two movies after getting hurt by Clarence or Cain;s gang saying " you are under arrest for destroying Police property"?

This is all the expressions we see in Robo throughout the entire movie

[Comment]

I mean all traces of human being and Murphy., not leaving any kind of emotions or persinality in him. Thats why he instantly seemed "off" when I first saw the movie in R3. That wasnt the RoboCop I knew and I couldnt identify with the piece of hardware that he was changed into. To further explain what I mean, here are just a few examples:

-In the first 2 movies, Robocop IS Murphy, with the same personality and everything, only with sgnificant memory loss and enclosed in a metallic body. in "RoboCop", we see Robo in pain many times, gritting his teeth and twisting when he's fighting the painful program in Jones' office:


Or when he's impaled by Clarence, or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team. We see him sad and depresses. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when hes taking the debris off of him after killing Clarence. Hes a MAN, just in a cyborg body

Same in RoboCop 2 - We see him twice on a verge of crying, with a shaky voice, when hes responding to Hozlgang's mental bashing and when he's comforting Hob. We see him sad and we see screaming and gritting teeth in pain, like when hes captured, fought and then tortured in factory or when hes electrocuting himself, we see him pissed off like when in the factory, promising that he will kill him:


And we also see him in pain and physcially reacting when hurt and making effort to lift/move heavy things, like when hes pulling Cain off the rooftop

Now take a look at R3. Nothing. Throughout the entire movie, theres not one trace of emotions or humanity on his part. His voice is so deep that he sounds angry all the time, but hes not. Hes just raising his voice sometimes. Look how he reacts when he gets hurt:



See the difference? He feels no pain. He acts like hes constantly on valium. Remember in R1 when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in R3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all. And not to mention he's talk - "vehicle approaching", "tracking". Not recognizing jokes, like the Mac truck joke and responding to them literally, not even being capable of humane conversation with a kid. The kid asks him "how are you feeling?" and he says "My efficiency rate is 93%"

And theres plenty more. The bottom line is, Dekker completely erased Murphy and replaced him with a piece of stiff hardware that has as much personality as a toaster. I mean, can you imagine the Robo from the first two movies after getting hurt by Clarence or Cain;s gang saying " you are under arrest for destroying Police property"?

This is all the expressions we see in Robo throughout the entire movie

[RoboFan85]

I get your point now, in R1 and 2, it's murphy as a cop/robot, and R3, it's all robot talking and moving, if you get what im saying, not one sign of "murphy" is in the Robocop cyborg, which is why 3 sucked on SO many levels and the director wasn't P.H.

[Joined]

I get your point now, in R1 and 2, it's murphy as a cop/robot, and R3, it's all robot talking and moving, if you get what im saying, not one sign of "murphy" is in the Robocop cyborg, which is why 3 sucked on SO many levels and the director wasn't P.H.

[Post Count]

I get your point now, in R1 and 2, it's murphy as a cop/robot, and R3, it's all robot talking and moving, if you get what im saying, not one sign of "murphy" is in the Robocop cyborg, which is why 3 sucked on SO many levels and the director wasn't P.H.

[Comment]

I get your point now, in R1 and 2, it's murphy as a cop/robot, and R3, it's all robot talking and moving, if you get what im saying, not one sign of "murphy" is in the Robocop cyborg, which is why 3 sucked on SO many levels and the director wasn't P.H.

[KidGoesWild]

Thats right. And whats funny about it is that in some interviews Dekker said that hes going back to the roots and to what the character is all about. Funny guy he is

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Joined]

Thats right. And whats funny about it is that in some interviews Dekker said that hes going back to the roots and to what the character is all about. Funny guy he is

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Post Count]

Thats right. And whats funny about it is that in some interviews Dekker said that hes going back to the roots and to what the character is all about. Funny guy he is

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Comment]

Thats right. And whats funny about it is that in some interviews Dekker said that hes going back to the roots and to what the character is all about. Funny guy he is

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[ChAnOoD]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[KidGoesWild]

I dont know. I think Dekker simply didnt get the character and just presented him as a robot only, or perhaps as you say it was a conscious decision to just make him a robot and nothing more because thats cooler for kids. Cause were not talking about just pain, he has zero emotions throughout the entire movie. And the robotic dialogue he spewes, mentioned above as well. I like how someone once described him as Robo on Valium

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Joined]

I dont know. I think Dekker simply didnt get the character and just presented him as a robot only, or perhaps as you say it was a conscious decision to just make him a robot and nothing more because thats cooler for kids. Cause were not talking about just pain, he has zero emotions throughout the entire movie. And the robotic dialogue he spewes, mentioned above as well. I like how someone once described him as Robo on Valium

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Post Count]

I dont know. I think Dekker simply didnt get the character and just presented him as a robot only, or perhaps as you say it was a conscious decision to just make him a robot and nothing more because thats cooler for kids. Cause were not talking about just pain, he has zero emotions throughout the entire movie. And the robotic dialogue he spewes, mentioned above as well. I like how someone once described him as Robo on Valium

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[Comment]

I dont know. I think Dekker simply didnt get the character and just presented him as a robot only, or perhaps as you say it was a conscious decision to just make him a robot and nothing more because thats cooler for kids. Cause were not talking about just pain, he has zero emotions throughout the entire movie. And the robotic dialogue he spewes, mentioned above as well. I like how someone once described him as Robo on Valium

_____________

http://robocopmovies.blogspot.com/

[RoboJOF]

What's up with the electrocution chest-thrusts in Robocop 2?

[Joined]

What's up with the electrocution chest-thrusts in Robocop 2?

[Post Count]

What's up with the electrocution chest-thrusts in Robocop 2?

[Comment]

What's up with the electrocution chest-thrusts in Robocop 2?

[vegasrobo]

Really?..Never wondered about that just figured it was a result of a massive system overload.

[Joined]

Really?..Never wondered about that just figured it was a result of a massive system overload.

[Post Count]

Really?..Never wondered about that just figured it was a result of a massive system overload.

[Comment]

Really?..Never wondered about that just figured it was a result of a massive system overload.

[chaos one]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[RoboJOF]

Whatever it is, the chest thrust is surely memorable. If Robocop ever crashes into a nightclub where they are playing 90s hip hop music, he can raise the robotic roof with the Chest Thrust dance move.

[Joined]

Whatever it is, the chest thrust is surely memorable. If Robocop ever crashes into a nightclub where they are playing 90s hip hop music, he can raise the robotic roof with the Chest Thrust dance move.

[Post Count]

Whatever it is, the chest thrust is surely memorable. If Robocop ever crashes into a nightclub where they are playing 90s hip hop music, he can raise the robotic roof with the Chest Thrust dance move.

[Comment]

Whatever it is, the chest thrust is surely memorable. If Robocop ever crashes into a nightclub where they are playing 90s hip hop music, he can raise the robotic roof with the Chest Thrust dance move.

[Maxlee]

It's an actor in a heavy cumbersome suit being told by the director to act like "a cyborg being electrocuted", what would you have done ?

Speaking of this scene, you also see RoboCop falling on his knees, keeping this position must have been touch for Weller as well. Who knows in what pain his knees where afterwards (and how broken the suit was at the knee area)

[Joined]

It's an actor in a heavy cumbersome suit being told by the director to act like "a cyborg being electrocuted", what would you have done ?

Speaking of this scene, you also see RoboCop falling on his knees, keeping this position must have been touch for Weller as well. Who knows in what pain his knees where afterwards (and how broken the suit was at the knee area)

[Post Count]

It's an actor in a heavy cumbersome suit being told by the director to act like "a cyborg being electrocuted", what would you have done ?

Speaking of this scene, you also see RoboCop falling on his knees, keeping this position must have been touch for Weller as well. Who knows in what pain his knees where afterwards (and how broken the suit was at the knee area)

[ChAnOoD]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[Ex-Machino]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[Rick]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[Comment]

[KidGoesWild]

[Joined]

[Post Count]

[Comment]